hi guys, .
in discussions with a current jw, they told me that have big concerns with regards to the 607 bce date, but they are waiting on jehovah for refining.
any suggestions on questions to pose to them based on their feedback?.
Botchtower's formula is 100% crap. This formula gets you nothing but bad results.
Pray More + Wait on Jehovah = Nothing Gets Done and People get Ill/Hurt/Dead.
edited to add: It is the exact opposite of Stephen Covey's First Habit of Highly Effective People.
That habit is: Be Proactive.
Stephen Covey knows more than the Almighty Jehovah(hahahaha).
i tried testing my family by mentioning that a member of the gb was summoned to appear in front of the royal commission and i found it really weird how they reacted.they dismissed it saying its just satan attacking the 'truth' and i could not believe how ignorant they are.they all think that the organization did nothing wrong or even that jw's abuse their children.
SpunkedTeen, sounds like you have some very valuable critical thinking skills that your family lack.
Sometimes people want something to be true so badly that they turn a blind eye to facts and evidence. This is called delusion.
If Geoffrey Jackson does appear before the Royal Commission, it will be very interesting to see how that proceeds.
i hope the royal commission will be able to force the jw organization to take a serious look at itself ,and will cause some much needed changes.. i have been following the trial faithfully ,and unfortunately it has dredged up some deep pains from years ago .
you think some of that old baggage is neatly packed away never meant to see the light of day again .....but then boom there it is again .. hearing what bcg had to go through, and how she felt trying to get help from the elders was heart-wrenching.
i remember the terrible way young women were treated in the 1970's .
(((( troubled mind )))) The misogyny in the Bible and in religions makes them unpalatable to me and I suspect a lot of women. Religion has a veneer of moral righteousness that when pulled back exposes self-righteousness and abuse. Patriarchy doesn't work and is harmful. I am hoping the Borg gets its a$$ handed to them.
TheWonderofYou said: ...my former elders educated me insofar....that a hymen , virgen membrane is a blessing of J*H G$D and a sign that girls have to wait til marriage of course, even the creation of de hymennn thus gives widness fo de druth.
Some women are born without a hymen. So much for elders knowing what they are talking about.
quick backstory:raised a jw, ms, reg pioneer, international need greater work.
i have been da for 2 years, divorced, ex and my son live 6 hours away near walkill ny.. my sons first talk is coming up, in august.
he is 7 years old.
the neighbor child came over to play with my youngest child.
i think she's about 4 maybe 5. well anyway there was some strawberries out on the counter and she asked if she could have one and i said no.
when i looked over later i saw her sneak one.
Crazyguy said: Exwhyzee, you are right I did put a pox or curse on her, making her life miserable, that's the least I could do right.
Hang on a second... isn't this a pagan ritual?!
something i have noticed over the years is how much harder it is to research the history of the watchtower society from its own literature.
people have thrown away old publications in place of the watchtower library.
i beleive soon the watchtower library disk will be discontinued in place of the online library.
R. Gerome Harris said: Where there is concealment, there is deceit.
Well stated.
I have a lot of books from my parent's library that I'd like to sell. The hardbound Awake! and Watchtower volumes start at 1960 and go forward, I think, to around 2009 (?). I believe year 2002 is missing... my Dad either lent it out and it didn't come back or he didn't order it because that's the year my Mom died.
so i got coerced into watching this crap last night.
a few observations:.
1) it personified the witness mantra that doing more for the org = happiness, doing not enough = misery.
september 2015. .
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Wasanelder Once said: They never got my money. I was dumb enough to pioneer for 9 years but I never donated a dime. I figured Jehoobie do would handle that part of it.
"Jehoobie do"... lol .... Ruh Roh! ;0)
yes or no.......what say you?.
i'll start - no!.
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fukitol said: It's not possible to reason with brainwashed religious fanatics who hold primitive mythology to be immutable truth.
The onus is on the civilised and enlightened world and it's legal system to intervene to stop the evil fruitage religious fanatics produce.
Well stated fukitol.
When Christopher Hitchens was asked in a debate where does evil come from, he didn't hesitate but stated firmly and clearly:
"From religion."
I do miss The Hitch.
i always sit in the same spot, just outside starbucks in a vestibule area with a table in the air-conditioned space.
i say "always," but not today.. somebody with two laptops and a table filled with business ledgers was in "my" favorite spot!.
so, i took a tiny wooden table inside the coffee shop on a long padded bench next to 3 other identical tables.. as the clickbait banner ads like to say: "and what happened next was simply unbelievable!".
Wow, that was awesome! Terry, please don't feel badly. Sometimes it takes something like this to wake a person up.
These 2 received some new light today courtesy of their organization but handed to them by you. I think they grew up a little today. Well done.
