I wonder how many of so-called jehovahs witnesses died in the 1920's of the Spanish Flu ?
I wonder if the WTS kept and published figures of that?
I wonder if the delusion of angelic protection will subside for todays WT members?
Reality Bites.
so we are a couple weeks into this crisis with the meetings being cancelled.
and you would think the fds would have provided the sheep with helpful spiritual guidance in these times of need.
wtf do they have jw broadcasting for then?
I wonder how many of so-called jehovahs witnesses died in the 1920's of the Spanish Flu ?
I wonder if the WTS kept and published figures of that?
I wonder if the delusion of angelic protection will subside for todays WT members?
Reality Bites.
i don't know if this topic has been covered before - it might 've been.. i also recommend flipper's excellent music thread ('what songs have you been listening to?
', or similar).. but, i'd just like to start a thread about certain songs giving me goosebumps.
y'know, when you hear a song that profoundly effects you in some difficult-to-describe way and the hairs on your arm stand on end even though the room temperature's comfortably warm.. so, which songs give you goosebumps?.
Creedence
the watchtower has posted a news item on the coronavirus on their website and officially endorces the advice of who, the world health organization which is described by wikipedia as -.
the world health organization (who) is a specialised agency of the united nations that is concerned with world public health.
it was established on 7 april 1948, and is headquartered in geneva, switzerland.
Next you'll be telling the Watchtower got it's Library card back pffft!
this topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.
latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.
the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.
First of all I would like to thank Simon for a thoughtful uncongested topic as a go to for information on a topic which may touch all of us in the near future.
I,ve got a step son coming back to Australia from Hong Kong next month and do wonder what the future holds. if this shit gets more serious.
Secondly I just got back from my supemarket and wished I'd taken a picture of the dunny roll isle ,apart from a few large bundles left . the quarter acre isle was as naked as a babies bum. Funnily enough I actually was running short of rolls and had to pick up a packet that almost needed a forklift to pick up . Got enough to last to the next scourge on society!
A tight lipped young woman was lifting a huge bag of rice into trolley , and just about every trolley seemed to have a generous amount of long life milk - so there is still food for now. But bugger all hand sanitizer , just a few bottles of that one that foams up but only in that proprietry dispenser made by them ,how inconvenient guess I"ll just have to use the old fashioned soap and wash my hands regularly like many of us old timers do. Plenty of soap on the shelves! Wierd.
Went on home got on the computer and read this topic and I started to think a bit more about this plague and what iff it did actually turn out to be a horrifying thing for mankind and absolute panic ensued. I think we will be thinking more than about a shortage of toilet paper. Maybe all those Doomsday Preppers will have to sharpen up them gun skills a bit more and those that are like them, might be the majority of remaining humans left here.
What a wonderful world they will have - no law except their own , use yer gun whenever, no-ones gonna tell 'em what to do ,and for the JW's still alive, the GB may even allow gun use too! Roll on plague just like back in Egypt I ain't got much life left in me anywayz.....hold on god where are the earthquakes etc you promised again and again thru your hand picked buffoons in America!
i was balding and grey so i asked my witness barber friend to "just shave it all off" many brothers were doing the comb over which looked friggin stupid.
but oh no in the 1990's this was rebellious he had to call a brother we knew at bethel to see if it was ok. we got his ok to go ahead but at the time i could help thinking about the no beard rule and how controlled and cultish we were..
I wonder if the sisters call bethel to see iff they can shave their vaginas!?? I bet not they just do it anyway same as belly button earings ha
my wife's family rode motorcycles all their life.
her grandfather was an elder.
i was told by some dubbers that it was not christian to use a motorcycle.
Had bike since I was 18 ,part of a bike gang when I was 19 when I met my first wife from a JW family.My first bike was a 2 stroke yamaha 305 cc and next was a K1 Honda 750 4cyl in 1971 and never really stopped, I'm still trying to catalog all the different bikes I had.
Raced Motocross on a yamaha MX250 in '73 and '74
Here the stigma was bad and looked down upon and when I became a JW motorcycling was kept low key otherwise I would not have been on the servant body ,but it was OK in the 80's for a local elder to have a huge Yankee car that reeked male penis problems!
Later me and a fellow brother would go Windsurfing with our families and go to the kingdom hall on Sundays with all the gear on our cars roof racks and then go windsurfing after the meeting = did not go down well!
Still riding got a Triumph thruxton, aKawasaki KLX650 dirt bike , a Husqvarna wrk260 race bike and a restored Triumph 1973 Daytona 500cc love them all
there's a post on exjw reddit stating that the ibsa are planning on building a media operation at the sydney bethel.. the estimated cost is $10 million aud and this in spite of the fact that they still have not joined the redress scheme or attempted in any monetary way of assisting abused victims within the organization.. the link below includes detailed plans.
they will be converting part of the current printery into a media complex.. they also propose to build a theme park in the form of a historical biblical site, including a man made mound and what one person suggests is a temple.. its not surprising that a bunch of old men in new york has dreamed all of this up - film sets in new york, england and now australia.
they are bonkers but it's a novel way of getting money from their followers.. https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/ernz3y/new_media_centre_at_the_australian_sydney_bethel/.compact.
Does sound like a real estate deal in the end unless they have a new "overlapping generation" in the wings ready to take on Movie World
there's a post on exjw reddit stating that the ibsa are planning on building a media operation at the sydney bethel.. the estimated cost is $10 million aud and this in spite of the fact that they still have not joined the redress scheme or attempted in any monetary way of assisting abused victims within the organization.. the link below includes detailed plans.
they will be converting part of the current printery into a media complex.. they also propose to build a theme park in the form of a historical biblical site, including a man made mound and what one person suggests is a temple.. its not surprising that a bunch of old men in new york has dreamed all of this up - film sets in new york, england and now australia.
they are bonkers but it's a novel way of getting money from their followers.. https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/ernz3y/new_media_centre_at_the_australian_sydney_bethel/.compact.
I wonder if they will do what they did years ago ,they manually, with brick saws cut the faces off their pallets of bricks and stuck them to the walls. All that slave labour they used to do that joyless noisy job.
One of my former employees told me he was there for nearly two years doing that sort of crap for an unthankful and oblivious governing body ,what a bunch of monkeys!
Hey here's an idea ,they could cut different coloured bricks and make a mosaic of the governing body as monkeys humping each other in a line with the background music being a lovely clap-along kingdom song!
i am actually not a 'sky is falling' guy, but i wanted to comment on the australian bushfires.. you may or may not believe the science behind global warming, however i personally put more faith in verified, scientific data than the words of fat cat, self-serving politicians.
climate science has predicted, based on data, that we will see more prolonged, extreme weather events, higher average temperatures, rising sea levels due to ocean expansion and glacial melting.
and this is exactly whats happening.
I live about an hours drive from Adelaide South Australia on the coast and just on the good side of 70 years old .
The fires in Australia are unprecedented in my memory and I have lied in many of the areas affected by the massive bushfires and it is saddening to see the vision of the destruction on the media because I remember what it was before.
I choose to live where I live because of the low risk of fire being beachside suburbia. For decades now our population and wealth has grown as a nation and more people have chosen to live in bushfire prone areas ,so that's a risk. more people more chance of fire etc.
Some people believe global warming is a crock of shit and say so here despite apparent evidence .I won't argue with them because they are'nt experts and neither am I .Pointless.
But I will say that in my relatively short life I,ve seen some changes here including temperatures of 46.6 C ,about 118 F which we had to live thru on the coast not in the desert. This happens regularly now compared to decades ago where we would get hot days, but not that high, and with regularity like now.
I guess alot of us can point to the changes wherever we are in the world ,here in Australia the scientists point three major influences to our weather which includes the Indian ocean cooling at present ,the air over the antarctic and the massive burning of fossil fuels.
Like RUBADUB in Florida and his flooding which is unusual local activity alot of us must notice changes to our environment.
We are'nt getting higher seas here that I recall but that does'nt mean climate change is not changing things in some other part of the world causing floods . I am sure if I lived in Greenland I would certainly see and feel the effects of billions of tonnes of ice melting over decades.
Can we say that the fires are totally caused by global warming? Surely I would be an arrogant prick if I could just come out and say that without absolute proof!
I think we just need to be observant and informed and look at this from all angles we can because this is our and our childrens world ,in our lifetimes we.ve seen the results of polluting and mismanagement and why it happens.
In the meantime theres alot of people here who have to restart their lives and they are thankful to still be alive
jehovahs witness yearbook, 1967 p.105: cameroon"on one occasion a large crowd was following a man who had a talking serpent.
the serpent gave greetings and spoke in foreign tongues....a brother was passing by, attracted by the commotion, he went to the house to see what was happening.
as soon as he entered the room the serpent stopped talking.
O I wonder if there were two reliable witnesses to this event from the brothers?
So it's not OK to believe a Child that has no two witnesses to being molested , but it is OK to try and influence millions of earths people with a story that might not be true!
Now that's Jehovahs Witnesses for you.