Posts by jookbeard

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Let's talk about Don Adams.

by Ray Frankz in

it's interesting that the person of the president of wtbts has figured lesser and lesser since f. franz era.

i was born in the religion in the 90's and i got to know about russel, rutherford, knorr and franz; but i never knew until a couple of years ago that m. henschel was the president in that time.

the same happens with don adams now, the first wt president from the 'other sheep'.

jookbeard

the power lies with the legal dept and probably the service dept to some degree, the GB are mere puppets, could any billion $ corporation leave decision making to utter buffoons like Lett and Morris?

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Anbody know...

by careful in

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...what david ianelli is doing these days?

he was in the writing department and known as one of the more liberal brothers there.

he gave loving, heartfelt talks.

If they stopped the monthly report card ?

by Chook in

witnessing would cease, would it flow on to attendance numbers at meetings and then total decimation of the church..

jookbeard

I wouldn't go that far, the D2D work has all but finished and they still plod along, a huge percent of the stupid report card is not worth the paper its written, its meaningless in reality

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Did Jesus pre exist? Yes or no?

by UnshackleTheChains in

when i first became a witness, i always found the teaching about jesus being the arch angel michael hard to swallow.

i did however believe that jesus pre existed as a master worker alongside god (the first of his creation).. but now everything is brought into question having watched anthony buzzard explain why jesus could not have pre existed as it is impossible to pre exist yourself.

also the fact that it all sounds contradictory to suggest, he was already alive millions of years before he was transferred to mary's womb to be born as a human - the son of man?.

jookbeard

I'm with NN, sorry the whole fable is ludicrous

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Cart Witnesses Today - I am not impressed

by pale.emperor in

just approached a cart then with two jw girls holding out mags.

they continued chatting to each other about car insurance when i took the watchtower from one of their hands.. ok, so it looks like i'll have to get the ball rolling.

i asked if they were jehovahs witness.

jookbeard

I think there must have been a directive PE, this has happened to me on at least a half a dozen occasions now

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Cart Witnesses Today - I am not impressed

by pale.emperor in

just approached a cart then with two jw girls holding out mags.

they continued chatting to each other about car insurance when i took the watchtower from one of their hands.. ok, so it looks like i'll have to get the ball rolling.

i asked if they were jehovahs witness.

jookbeard

I had another chat in Croydon town centre yesterday, a very busy town and shopping area, every time I drop by there there is a cart so without wasting anytime I picked up a rag and engaged the two guys , this time I fancied a chat about their blood stance and I went to ask them how long the ban had been in force etc ( they claimed since the foundation of the WTS which I had to correct them on) , they eventually had to admit to my line of the conversation but one of the guys a youngish guy early 20's reasonably bright stated that the transfusing of human blood did not begin until during the second world war and that all blood transfusions consisted of only animal blood! I didn't know weather to laugh out loud( a google search that I did later shows that a physician by the name of William Harvey carried out the first human blood transfusion in 1628! British physician James Blundell carried out the first successful human blood transfusion in 1818 to a patient suffering from postpartum haemorrhage) we had agreed that the prohibition on blood started some time in the early 1950's, I gave them an illustration " you have two young familes in a KH the time was say for example the mid 1940's when blood transfusions are allowed, one of the young children of Family A suffer a terrible accident is rushed to the emergency room of a local hospital is suffering large blood loss and accepts a blood transfusion lives to a ripe old age and no more is ever said about it, fast forward a few years to the mid 1950's, Family B have a young family and one of the children suffers the exact same tragedy as what happened to Family A but because of the new teaching about blood transfusions being banned the young kid dies due to refusing of a blood transfusion," I ask them how unfair is that? by this time they are so tangled up in knots its very very embarrassing , the other guy spouts up that the lad that took the blood "would be dead in gods eyes etc!" I said I think you've misunderstood me, the child of Family A I mentioned took the blood sometime in the 1940's when there was no blood ban, I think he still failed to understand me. Its sad and rather pathetic that the average R&F have such a useless knowledge of a doctrine that is so fundamental to their core teachings.Guess what? they both packed up the cart and bid me farewell an experience I've been seeing more and more of when I talk with them! I commented finally I must be the only guy in town that can make the jw's run away !

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Hospital refuses surgery on JW patient - Switzerland

by TheWonderofYou in

switzerland - .

jw files a suit because his surgery was refused!

supreme court decides against jw.. in the present case, the dilemma to which the hospital refers is not at all.

jookbeard

brilliant stand by the hospital, lets hope more follow suit

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On the Subject of Demons, I Have a Story to Tell.

by snugglebunny in

i have posted the full story on a fb site.

so my apologies to anyone who's already read it.

some of what i've written is what was told to me by my father.

jookbeard

great enjoyed that Mike

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Watchtower Doctrines JWs most commonly don't believe

by Diogenesister in

there was a recent thread on another site where posters maintained that many of the *most* long-standing jw's don't believe at least one official watchtower doctrine.

i've even read reports from bethelites saying they've heard bethel overseers say they don't believe some watchtower theology.

this made me think - i believe there are a few official doctrines that are common for many jw's to be either in denial about or simply not really believe ( often one and the same thing).. i'd say these are pretty high in the ranking:.

jookbeard

the more I delved into a resurrection into a paradise earth the more I thought how insane the idea was, the numbers alone cant add up, the prospect of these mutant beings being bought to life are the fantasies of a mad sci/fi fan with a very deranged imagination, utter madness. The Doomsday scenario of The Big A is a close second behind, more mind numbing madness.

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I'm giving up in 2017! (More steps in my fading)

by Skepsis in

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when i joined this site at the beginning of this year, i was serving as an uber-zealous regular pioneer and ms in a foreign congregation where the need is greater.

i was giving public talks and having parts at regional conventions.

had started to have doubts but i hadn't time to focus on them, i simply was overcharged with so many activities and things to do.. i started by quitting pioneering but couldn't think i would give further steps for a long time.

jookbeard

keep up the fade! dont look back the rest of your life is ahead of you, dont waste any more time on them, they are not worth it.