Posts by jookbeard

i believe it to be a waste of time talking to, reasoning with, jw's if you expect any kind of quick result.. many of us when we first wake up think that 'coz ttatt is blindingly obvious to us, it will soon get through to our jw loved ones.. this simply isn't so for a couple of important reasons.

the first is that, if someone believes something is true, or the truth, to them it really is, without doubt, true.

so whatever you say must be wrong somehow.. the second problem is that jw's simply do not have to use, or pay any attention to facts and logic.

jookbeard

I've had some great chats anti witnessing on their carts, I remember speaking to a guy in my town centre about their UN membership, his reactions was a look of being gob smacked, I still to this day have not seen him out again, I had another very good chat with a couple of ladies at very busy stations in London on seperate occasions I have lost count how many times I've been able to speak about the ARC to them, who knows what these little snippets and morsels do in unlocking their mindsets,only last week I had a very brief chat in a town centre close to me about the generation of 1914, they guy standing there looked genuinely surprised, they haemorrhage members, their Google buttons are only a nano second away from them, dont underestimate the work activism does.

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Demon possesion, bunch of crap or?

by raven in

i've been using the forum to vent and post a lot more frequently lately as a venting purpose & way to obtain peace of mind with the craziness i've been going through recently as i fade away form the org.

anyways today i'm sitting here at work and thinking to myself about demons... ok i know this sounds crazy but has anyone else out there been traumatized by the thought of demons?

i had a dream the other night, just flat out spooky and i woke and couldn't help but feeling it may have been evil ole' satan and his demons at it again.. i don't want to believe that, (trying not to, & just brushing it under the rug so to speak) but have any of you out there been talked up about demons?

jookbeard

went through a phase during my teens years of being petrified of spirits,demonic possession etc, it didn't help with an almost addiction to horror films particularly like like The Exorcist,The Omen, The Evil Dead etc, now many years later I'm completely free of such ridiculous fear and worry, there is nothing out there, during my fade though my wife and sister did comment that they felt I was possessed even by then I was not in any doubt that it was all a lot of fear fearmongering superstitious nonsense.

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Picture of Stephen Lett in 1976!

by Iamallcool in

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https://macsdowell.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/1976-9-17-new-bethelites.jpg.

jookbeard

not convinced its him at all, wonder who the other dudes are and if they are still in/awake?

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We close this prayer in the mighty god and our everlasting father Jesus Christ amen.

by pleaseresearch in

hmmm, how well do you think that would go down?.

you didn't say nothing wrong, isiah states that jesus is such things mentioned.

would brothers and sisters look at you with a smile, or would there be gasps of shock as you closed a prayer like that..

jookbeard

summoned to the back room before you've had a chance to sit down

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Challenging JWs at Cult Carts

by cofty in

if i have time i always talk to jws when i see a cult cart.. they are in a public forum promoting a harmful ideology therefore they are fair game.

having said that, the individual jws on the trolley are not the enemy so i think it's better to keep it as friendly and non-confrontational as possible.. being realistic no jw is going to admit they are wrong because of something we say to them on the street but don't underestimate the long-term effect of doubts.. so what are your ideas for how to approach them?.

personally i like to use the literature on the cart.

jookbeard

I tried a different tact today at a town centre I go to sometimes, a lady and young guy standing at the cart , I picked up the mag

me " they seem very thin these days I remember when they were far thicker"

lady "yes they are smaller but they go straight to the point with a wonderful hope for the future"

me "really? I remember reading about the generation that saw 1914 and the creators promise that would be completed by the 20th century, do you remember that?

her "yes I do"

me "well we are still waiting , I bid you a good day".

that was that, the rag was dumped a couple of hundred metres away.

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45 Minute Bethel Video about Changes (downsizing) at Watchtower

by OnTheWayOut in

i don't see this posted elsewhere, and i don't have the links besides this facebook one.. but here is a 45-minute long bethel talk about the changes at bethel including addressing the hard feelings of people who were given the axe.

basically, everything must change.

we gave remaining bethelites saturday off to do our bidding in "the field" and we give bethelites over 70 an extra day a week off (if you can find any such bethelites).

jookbeard

I never saw any evidence that CT Russell ever changed, he clung on to his Masonic Zionist,occult sympathising beliefs til his deathbed, lying bastard.

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My brother died last night

by LisaRose in

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i found out this morning that my brother died last night, he was also an ex jw, 73 years old and died of heart disease and kidney failure.

it was not totally unexpected, as he had been in poor health, but it's a blow, especially as i just lost another brother two years ago.

there were six of us, now only four.

jookbeard

sorry to hear of your loss , good to hear that he lived his last years however long it was free of the evil toxic cult

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Availability Crisis of Conscience.

by Ben131895 in

most of us are desperately waiting for the availability of a legal crisis of conscience.

deborah dykstra provided us with two updates.

on december 12, 2015 there was a clear statement about the copyright which stopped all illegal activity in spreading electronic versions & prints.. finally, she promised a new update by or before may 6.. so far no new update.

jookbeard

lots of things have gone wrong, I reckon another 2 years down the line and there will still be no CoC, a pathetic mess and a farce when you consider the amount of genuine offers she has had to offer print runs until the official transfer of copyright was completed, yet still nothing.