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  My friend needs advice re: wife who wants to leave JWs but won't celebrate

  by truthseeker in

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  2. friends

  i have a friend who has started the slow fade.

  recently, his wife talked about leaving, but she is still hung up on worldly holidays.. this is what he says.... one of the concerns my wife has about leaving "the truth" is that she wants our children to grow up with wholesome examples and association with their peers.

  my wife knows jws aren't the only religion to teach their kids to behave morally, but what about the holidays?

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  looloo

  tell her getting married is pagan but that didnt stop her doing it , get her to see that non jws manage to bring up respectful and well adjusted children , some jws i know have comented on what pleasant teenagers i have as though its so unusual for a non jw child to be anything but a druggy promiscious drunken monster , the only thing that has affected my kids is the few years that we attended meetings on and off (one was abused by someone we met there ) its all or nothing , i was much happier when i made the decision to be normal again
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  Have you been touched by CRIME?

  by LouBelle in

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  i personlly have on a number of occasions: twice i've been mugged.

  i've had my car stolen.

  i've been sexually assaulted.

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  looloo

  yes , i was in house fire aged 18 , it turned out that the block of flats i just moved into had an arsonist living in it too , i would have been dead if the landlord had not rescued me (he received a bravery award ) arsonist got 3 years in prison, result ! my bag got snatched on holiday abroad with my passport in once that was a nightmare too , my son got beat up by some kids from another school but there was not enough evidence to prosecute, no result then my daughter was abused by the local ex min servant (that had abused when a jw but never got reported ) i reported him to the police and he got 3 years for the covered up abuse but no time for my child as the charges were dropped due to lack of evidence ,no result again , i will encourage everyone to carry a camera around with them at all times as you never know when you may need some solid evidence in court . i dont know whether im just unlucky but all this happened in a seasde town , now im nervous of what else lies in store
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  did anyone leave town to get away from the jw experiance ?

  by looloo in

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  2. friends

  im so desperate to leave here to start afresh , i bet i move next door to some jws

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  looloo

  im so desperate to leave here to start afresh , i bet i move next door to some jws
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  educated elder or uneducated elder which was the best ?

  by looloo in

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  2. experiences

  the ones i know are either life long window cleaners with little education behind them or ex army /police /teacher types that are used to public talking and a bit of power , which ones did you find were the best elders ie kind and caring , i would go for the uneducated window cleaner /manual worker type by my experiance , in fact it was because the intelligent ones believed it was "the truth" that made me think well it must be true if he believes it

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  the ones i know are either life long window cleaners with little education behind them or ex army /police /teacher types that are used to public talking and a bit of power , which ones did you find were the best elders ie kind and caring , i would go for the uneducated window cleaner /manual worker type by my experiance , in fact it was because the intelligent ones believed it was "the truth" that made me think well it must be true if he believes it now i think it was just the power over people they loved .
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  did anyone read about cults when a jw and think oh that sounds familiar?

  by looloo in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i have recently read escape by a caroline jessop , about a flds lady that got away and when i was reading things she used to believe , that sounded like jw kind of stuff i wondered if a jw read it they may question what they believe , and could read it guilt free because i presume it would not be classed as apostate as it is critical of another relgion also another book about 3 sisters that left the children of god cult had similarities with jws , maybe your relatives that wont even look at apostate stuff would read these type of books .

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  i have recently read escape by a caroline jessop , about a flds lady that got away and when i was reading things she used to believe , that sounded like jw kind of stuff i wondered if a jw read it they may question what they believe , and could read it guilt free because i presume it would not be classed as apostate as it is critical of another relgion also another book about 3 sisters that left the children of god cult had similarities with jws , maybe your relatives that wont even look at apostate stuff would read these type of books .
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  is a homosexual as bad as a paodophile to a jw ?

  by looloo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the same guy that spoke to my mum on the doors yesterday was talking about them in the same catergory , aswell as saying that there are alot of 13 to 15 year old girls hanging around the local night club looking for a one night stands (she should of asked him how he knew about this , is that because he is there ?

  ) his point was is a man of 25 that picks up a 15 year old plastered in makeup at a nightclub a paedophile ?

  which was totally irrelevant to the point she was making about the local ex min servant that had abused his daughters friends in the cong even though he was good friends with thier parents and had known the girls since birth , so did know they were underage .

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  the same guy that spoke to my mum on the doors yesterday was talking about them in the same catergory , aswell as saying that there are alot of 13 to 15 year old girls hanging around the local night club looking for a one night stands (she should of asked him how he knew about this , is that because he is there ?) his point was is a man of 25 that picks up a 15 year old plastered in makeup at a nightclub a paedophile ? which was totally irrelevant to the point she was making about the local ex min servant that had abused his daughters friends in the cong even though he was good friends with thier parents and had known the girls since birth , so did know they were underage . my mum was a bit concerned about the child stood next to this man at the door and what an affect it could have on him hearing some of the things that were said (especially if he was gay )
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  mother just had jws at the door, they said that abuse is now reported to

  by looloo in

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  2. child-abuse

  the police !

  this was not an elder , but he said the rules changed sometime ago !

  thats odd because i rang bethel london a few days ago and the nice guy that i spoke to regarding our situation , said that in england and some of the states in america it is not the law to report to the police !

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  ninja , cant tell you that , far too risky !
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  mother just had jws at the door, they said that abuse is now reported to

  by looloo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the police !

  this was not an elder , but he said the rules changed sometime ago !

  thats odd because i rang bethel london a few days ago and the nice guy that i spoke to regarding our situation , said that in england and some of the states in america it is not the law to report to the police !

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  looloo

  can anyone think of anything usefull to say in a letter to the governing body on this subject ?
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  mother just had jws at the door, they said that abuse is now reported to

  by looloo in

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  2. child-abuse

  the police !

  this was not an elder , but he said the rules changed sometime ago !

  thats odd because i rang bethel london a few days ago and the nice guy that i spoke to regarding our situation , said that in england and some of the states in america it is not the law to report to the police !

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  the police ! this was not an elder , but he said the rules changed sometime ago ! thats odd because i rang bethel london a few days ago and the nice guy that i spoke to regarding our situation , said that in england and some of the states in america it is not the law to report to the police ! do you think that the ordinary dubs just presume that all abuse is reported to the police because that is the right thing to do ? what is the defanition of a child abuse coverup in the eyes of a jw , is it when it does not get reported to the police ?
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  do you know anyone that did "it "before the wedding in the kingdom hall ?

  by looloo in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i know of quite a few that did , some have never been found out , are they asked by the elders before the wedding if they have done it ?

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  looloo

  lol that one sounds familiar