i am getting ready to post my vulcan 1600 on craigslists for parts if anybody wants to see it pm me...it is an 04 and has a few thousand dollars of mods that are undamaged.......oompa
Posts by oompa
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38New light emerging?
by breakfast of champions inso, just recently ( i believe it was the september 1 wt) there was the thought that only the "incorrigibly wicked" will be destroyed at armageddon.
at the recent visit of the co, several times he brought up the idea that the "great crowd" will be far more people than just the 7m jws on earth today.
all my life i was raised thinking only jws would be the gc, and the other 99.9% of humanity would be fertilizer.
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oompa
wow that is an intense one hour read guys...i know exactly where i was at that moment...that entire day....i never remembered any other news moment really as to where i was....the landing on the moon a bit.....but not where i was when kennedy or reagan or lennon were shot....i am fifty.....
but there was one other and it was so scary...i dreamed the night before that the space shuttle challenger was going to explode after takeoff...and there was a teacher on board...i think the first time a civillian went on board....and so the next day i was kneeling on the floor in my living room....soft thick brown carpet....for some reason i was beside the woodstove and i dont even remember why i was there but i was on my knees watching it..and omg...it happened....just like i dreamed it.....i have never really gotten over it....it even looked the exact same....crazy i know.....oompa
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Not Raising My Hand at Tomorrow's WT Study.
by compound complex ingreetings, friends:.
wishing you all a pleasant weekend.
committed to attend tomorrow's meeting at the kingdom hall, i've decided that i am going because i love my friends and family.
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oompa
you are a stronger and braver....and more courageous soul than i.....i tried so hard to do that....failed......oompa
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New light emerging?
by breakfast of champions inso, just recently ( i believe it was the september 1 wt) there was the thought that only the "incorrigibly wicked" will be destroyed at armageddon.
at the recent visit of the co, several times he brought up the idea that the "great crowd" will be far more people than just the 7m jws on earth today.
all my life i was raised thinking only jws would be the gc, and the other 99.9% of humanity would be fertilizer.
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oompa
my motorcycle tag was brdfood......oompa
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Your top 5 most irritating doctrines/practices?
by cedars init's clear that virtually everyone on here is infuriated by wt teachings/doctrines/practices, but i would really like to know what is of most concern to people who frequent this forum.. here is my top 5, number 1 being the most significant/infuriating:.
the disfellowshipping practice - expanded to include family members (but not parents) who are old enough to leave home.
wrecks families and creates abject fear once people find out the truth about the organization.the blood issue - another unmerciful teaching, but one that costs lives.unquestioned authority of governing body - a handful of men make life-altering decisions as representatives of a larger group of people who they never see or speak to, and yet they demand unquestioning obedience on pain of being disfellowshipped.failed prophecy - the fulfilment of huge swathes of bible prophecy, including revelation, has been attributed to the events of the early 20th century, and the actions of a small group of men.two-tier christianity - faithful and discreet slave are anointed who go to heaven to whom ransom provisions apply directly, whereas remainder, or "great crowd" stay on earth and form a sub-class, only access benefits of ransom through fds.i realise that many of these issues are inter-related, but that's roughly how i would put them.
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oompa
i agree will all the above of course....i was surprised it took so long before anyone mentioned education....it just kills me that this religion is one of very few that ENCOURAGE less education rather than MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!....REALLY?!?!?!?!?!?...............geeze...........oomps
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How many on JWN still trapped in Org. & will it get easier with time?
by Kensho ini have only been mentally out for just over a year and i find it difficult to live this double life, ( ex-elder/reg pioneer).
i'm still in for probably the same reason as most who post here=.
a wife that i cherish= who would be destroyed and kick me to the curb.
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oompa
dead on anony mous.....and also a welcome to kensho....and unfortunately i also went through a very tough mental spell....and guys i kind of did what you guys said to do at first....see i did not try to fade it just happened....i had doubted for years and quit being a mini sevrve and had refused every attempt to make me an elder....and i was always slack in service once i was done with peing a pioner....god that word sounds so stupid now lol!....
so in the beginning i did a nice slow fade without realizing it....only the few years did i screw up....just became so frustrated that she is so close minded that she WILL NOT allow herself to even think about thinking about the possibility it is not the truth....im talking the type that puts her fingers in her ears and out loud prays.....jehovah help me...jehovah help me....and afterwards i had to tell her just because i no longer believe something does not mean i have a fukkin demon in me!!! REALLY?!?!?!?!?....and that i am not mentally diseased either....well...not so sure about that last one actually
and as my doubts grew stronger and stronger i just could not bear to put that suit on....or go in service hell....or go to many meetings....and when i did i was either outside or in the library making all the elders and most others nervous! elder even asked me to use library after meeting and i just told him i am so forgetful that i have to look stuff up right away lol....
so basically i was losing faith.....and i did less and less and so accidently faded.....because i could just not believe anymore.....and they did NOTHING really.....they had no answers so of course i am an apostate...IE SANE!................oompa
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How many on JWN still trapped in Org. & will it get easier with time?
by Kensho ini have only been mentally out for just over a year and i find it difficult to live this double life, ( ex-elder/reg pioneer).
i'm still in for probably the same reason as most who post here=.
a wife that i cherish= who would be destroyed and kick me to the curb.
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kensho it will be a wild ride either way....but i was dying inside....i wanted to scream out BULLSHIT....over and over at the meetings.....it just ate at me....my costs have been huge and still continue....but there is a freedom i also really enjoy too....and being true to myself....but at fifty the costs and the loss are enourmous for a fourth gen born in.....oompa
and welcome erbie...and you are so right on and i know because i did every fukkin thing you warned not to do....and it drove her deeper and deeper in.....
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THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST DAYS OF MY LIFE!!...THANK YOU NOAH...AND LACK OF SCIENCE TO PROVE THE FLOOD....AND POONTANG....OMG THE POWER OF POONTANG...I WISH I COULD TAKE ALL THE CREDIT...BUT NO!!!!!
by oompa init has been a hellacious five years for many in my family...especially my poor jw wife who could almost walk on water damm it...she is a saint.....and i so hate i have hurt her in so many ways....and i mean that.....but it has hell for me too since third grade as i never fit in..... or 1995 or both of course...that damm generation of 1914 thingy being kicked to the curb..... and me knowing it was now all bs since then just as i thought it was before......you mean really???
?......you mean i actually am going to grow old and die?!?!?
!....no fukkin way?!
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oompa
hmmmmm....yes i am bummed...he is out mentally only enough to know it is not the real truth....but as of now he has decided he had rather not be disfellowshipped for family and social reasons....but i told him that he will still be unders so much scrutiny and control...directly or not...and was saying how it would be OK...that it is NO BIG DEAL and he has several jw friends that go a bit but no longer believe it
and i said it WAS a big deal....that now he would not even be able to hang out with me or his brother or any other of his many dfd friends because he could be dfd for even that...i asked him if he thinks it is OK that the only way he can be with me is to sneak the fluck around?!?!?....and i told him IT IS A BIG DEAL TO ME!....and i could see the unease and conflict on his face..........it takes years to really stop the thinking patterns........oompa
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Calling all "Mentally Diseased" Apostates!!
by serenitynow! inlol!.
next sunday is the wt discussion of the infamous july 15th study article "will you heed jehovah's clear warnings?".
i am pretty curious to see how the congregation comments on the material.
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oompa
go for it flip...i wish i could do that....i am kinda infamous...i would have to drive a long ways...or go to a hispanic congo....or i could slit my wrists, drink draino or anti-freeze...........oompa
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I finally understand why my very intelligent, logical, incredibly well read dad/elder is incapable of the ability to reason on jw teachings he receives on the wi-fi144k/2b link
by oompa inhe can only start with the firm confiction.......no...the positive position that a certain teaching/topic is irrefutable... because it comes directly from god on his wi-fi144k/2b link ....then his and many other hardcore jws very ability to reason may be lost as it is with my dad.
ah (overused jw word) but in order to reason your way to an answer on any topic...you must be able to consider and meditate (overused jw word) various information, other possibilities, alternate positions that may a better answer to or better define the topic.
uh-uhh...he cant do that...because he already has all the answers...not only is there is no need to really reason on the topic, but the very ability is totally removed....even for a man as smart as my dad...he cant even consider an alternate view that may be more correct, because there cant be one more correct than that of wt .
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oompa
thanks guys...and yes this is a bump and i may have never done one before....but damm how could i be so slow about grasping this simple fact?...i mean wtf why have i tried to reason/argue with them and with some it wound up always argue
and i may bump forever the one about my son telling me he has left at least mentally on aug 29!!!.....whew....oompa