Posts by WTWizard

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Operation Snow White - conducted by Scientologists

by The Fall Guy in

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why wasn't this cult outlawed and banned under u.s. law?.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/operation_snow_white.

WTWizard

Religions that work for the enslavement of the whole world are protected, while religions that work against it get banned. This includes the jokehovians and scientologists, along with islam and the rest of xianity. They get protection from the reptilians that actually run the whole world. Meanwhile, any legitimately Satanic religion, which works against such enslavement, is attacked by the reptilians and is banned.

It is of note that most of these allowed religions are harmful to those practicing them. You see rules against sex before marriage, and this has created so many hang-ups among people. They also like to ban fun--and jokehovian witlesses are not alone in this. (Anyone else wonder how the puritan religions ban playing cards, and so many religions even ban pagan holidays or corrupt them?) I have seen so much of that rubbish about everyone being equal--every group, race, and individual has different traits and are adapted to different conditions. Or, the "Poverty is a virtue" rubbish? That is the reason we have so much poverty among the common people while "God's chosen" seem to be so rich.

And no, I don't put the Moonies (another cult) or scientology as being any better than xian religions and cults (the jokehovians, seventh day adventists, and mor[m]ons are cults claiming to be xians. None of them do anything to advance human spirituality. All suppress fun, take away huge amounts of money from people, and claim that sickness and suffering is either a virtue or is the victim's fault. Scientology, for instance, practices that "engrams" are what causes all faults in people, and they practice "clearing" of such. I got a copy of Dianetics, which is the essence of scientology, back in the mid 1980s. According to this book, engrams are why we need glasses. I more recently saw a YouTube video of someone officially declared "clear", WEARING GLASSES. Why?

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Original songs

by road to nowhere in

i had to look at the meetibg part.

quote": variety of musical styles and subjects " bs.

bland music, lousy lyrics, no timing, singular subject.

WTWizard

Variety of styles? It was bad enough back in the pre-2010 era, before they changed the Kingdumb maladies. They threw a few off-notes in, a few extra lines in one song, and call that "variety"? And it has probably gotten even worse with that abomination of a new book. And that's what they are supposed to listen to, all the time.

Now, for variety, I listen to quite a few different styles. I have a MP3 player I use for work, and that contains something like 2,000 of my favorite songs. Therein lie pop rock from the 1960s, R&B from that era, hard rock and heavy metal (from the 1970s and '80s), disco, dance, funk, soul, and even some country music thrown in for good measure. It also includes some R&B and rap music from the 1990s, and pop music through. Including bubblegum music, psychedelic rock, garage rock, house and dance music (post-disco), and even the song Gathering Crowds (which was a real pain to find). I even have a few Christmas songs on that--I have a different MP3 player that has all Christmas songs, in a variety of styles, that I use for the Christmas season.

And that isn't "all inclusive". You can search that MP3 player all day and not find a single song from Barbra Streisand or Yanni. No Barry Manilow or Neil Diamond, either. Just real music. That is far more than can be said about only 150 songs or so (they keep changing the number, but it is all the same lousy styles) in their books.

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The end is so close now....

by punkofnice in

aren't they tiring out from saying this now?.

a jobo pimi-lite i know has a terminal illness (no names, no pack drill), was told, 'hold on, the end is so close.

the pimi-lite said they will need to hold on to their 'go bags(tm), then!.

WTWizard

This end has been around since 1872. And, in other related denominations, even before. The problem is, how soon it comes depends on how many people give their energy to joke-hova to bring us all into the enslavement that will be the end. That is, the end of all human hope, fulfillment, and happiness. We will all be assimilated, become greys, and lose our ability to think. And soon, the reptilians will inhabit this planet after they make it unfit for anything else.

Perhaps it is better if the end doesn't come at all. Put that bible away--or better, throw it away.

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Middle class elders and pioneering children

by Steel in

i was looking at my hall the other day some of the upper elders who are retired now have had some pretty good jobs and lives of relative comfort.

i am not exactly sure what the education levels were but they were white collar.

most likely started in a world where you didn’t need a lot of education to get a head.

WTWizard

I never saw any point in making rules that I didn't intend on following myself. Having your children living destitute while you were well off is not my idea of following your own rules. Unless the poverty is simply a matter of bad luck or a choice between that or something even worse, I simply cannot see the point of imposing it volitionally on your children. Of course, that is going on through the whole organization--pushing children to pious-sneer instead of having decent jobs. Often the parents pushing this did not quit their jobs to pious-sneer.

At least the Nazis practiced their own rules. Hitler, born at a time when it was expected for all men to smoke if they wanted to go anywhere, ended up throwing his cancer sticks in the river before pushing an anti-smoking campaign (which is still saving lives to this date, to the extent it was copied). Do those hounders, who gleefully bash Hitler, even follow their own rules?

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2019 Annual Meeting: more F.O.G.

by neat blue dog in

after the new construction project is announced, anthony morris the turd gives a talk where he arrogantly tells the audience to 'get over it' and get to work.

he says relaxing is fine and 'im not trying to put a guilt trip on you' but you all need to get busy.

no graciousness at all for the endless volunteer labor they demand for whatever new projects they dream up.

WTWizard

Working--on what? Do those working on it actually get to benefit, or are they putting all hopes and attention on these wasteful projects that should be on personal situations? As far as I see, they can take those projects and shove them all down the toilet.

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The Governing Body Doesn't Wait On Jehovah

by Afterburn in

have you ever been told that humility requires waiting on jehovah?i have.

lots of times.

for decades.

WTWizard

They claim to abide by the bible, and have the monopoly on it. My challenge is, why is it not possible to use the bible and just the bible, and get the truth out of it? They can't even handle the bible, let alone the actual truth.

As I don't claim to abide by the bible or that joke-hova provides anything but misery and enslavement for those following it, I am not bound by any of that. But, when they tell people to wait on joke-hova and then go ahead (or, worse, back and forth), they are hypocrites. Better they would be if they simply ditched the bible, openly, and proclaimed open communism (which is, in fact, what they are doing--but with the bible as their blind). They are taking a bad situation (that they are communists) and making it worse by tying the bible into it and then hypocritically not abiding by it. They deserve even worse trouble--bad enough to push communism, but they deserve worse for lying about it.

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How many here believe the WTS really has has 8.5 million followers / 8.5. million members

by Hotpepper in

i think it's closer to 5 million with all the selling of kingdom hells and branch bethel's all over the world.

it's even hard to get a hard copy of the lastest craptower or afake mag now in new york city..

WTWizard

If you go by "one that will, according to their own theology, survive Armageddon if it were to happen right now", I think the number is well under 8.5 million. I think it is under 5 million, as well. I wonder how many of them are simply turning in fake time or having fake time turned in on their behalf. Others are doing it simply for show, or because it's their means of controlling others' lives. Still others are not "doing enough"--they are simply doing enough to avoid hounding, but not all they possibly can. Remember, according to their theology, they need to do all they absolutely can (not "reasonably", absolutely) and with "pure motive" in order to survive.

If I use that measure, the numbers are actually going to be way lower. How many are making 200 high quality hours of field circus simply for joke-hova's sake? Not very. I would say the numbers should be down in 6 figures, not 7.

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Watch Tower's Popularity

by dydeonwl in

watchtower has been named as world's most published and circulated magazine in us.

amazing.

source:.

WTWizard

Maybe back in the 1960s, 70s, and 80s when that was the alternative to the lamestream. But, that all changed sometime in the 1990s when the Internet came along. That made it possible for everyone to write their own experiences about the jokehovians, blabbing that it is no different from other religions at best, to far worse and comparable to the cat lick church during the dark ages at worst. It also made possible the blabbing about the whole bible and quran being full of lies, intended to enslave the whole earth, rather than just being misunderstood or having a few mistakes.

There were once-good magazines that have been turned to rubbish. Prevention, once about preventing people from getting sick, now pushes the same drugs that everyone else including the Sickness Channel pushes (to me, prevention is not getting sick at all). Consumer Reports was once a good source of information to steer clear from rubbish products, and that has become a garbage political rag as well. Reader's Digest is another once-good magazine that has become leftist propaganda. But, at least all these were once good (I doubt that today, any real good magazines would get published). Which is more than can be said about the washtowel rags, which were rubbish from the beginning and are still rubbish.

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Will God resurrect our beloved pets? What do you think?

by Pallbearer in

the watchtower doesn't hold out any hope for us ever seeing our beloved animals again.

i find it very difficult to believe that god -- a god of love -- would refuse to resurrect an animal that we had become so attached to.

over the years i have bonded with no less than four (4) dogs, all of which were/are like family to me.

WTWizard

Just goes to show what joke-hova thinks of animals. I have no respect for a god that treats animals as expendable. While sometimes it is necessary to kill animals (for food, to control populations of animals that can become pests, or in self defense), wanton abuse of animals is not excused. And offering them up as sacrifices to this blood-thirsty god is not acceptable--the animal's soul is used as energy to help that thing enslave the whole world.

And belittling the bond between a pet and its owner is just as bad. Some pets can last as long as 60 years, given proper care. Dogs and cats tend to last 12 years or so, and some breeds can approach 30 years if given excellent care. Yes, I believe that one should not own a pet that they cannot properly care for. But, this is not the case in many cases. There are people that can and do properly care for dogs and cats, even building structures on their whole homes for them. These animals have souls, too. They can become attached to people that properly care for them--why then, after maybe 20 years, does this god expect people to suddenly not care for them at all? Even a pet rat, which is lucky to make it much past 3 years old, can become attached to someone.

Or, I would like to see someone's pet parakeet (which can last as long as 60 years, given good care) dying after a long life, and have its owner not feel anything for it simply because joke-hova wants all that energy to help enslave the whole planet. I would rather see joke-hova dead--preferably by the most inhumane way possible, than seeing a mouse dying.

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Providing salvation is not that important

by pixel in

the washtowel has a crazy obsession with diminishing the important of jesus' sacrifice for humankind.

i find this so antichristian.

i mean, how can you ignore scriptures like john 3:16?.

WTWizard

And the washtowel claims to be xian. The last I checked, christian means believing that we are all inherent sinners through Adam, that jesus came to deal with such sin, and that we must accept that sacrifice to be "saved". It does not mean having to do additional works, such as spreading that filth from door to door. It does not mean abandoning all your celebrations--even in the bible, we are not supposed to judge others for such festivities (I will, however, judge anyone whose idea of celebration includes drink driving, since that does endanger everyone else on the roads).

Now, if they claim to be the only true xians, that binds them to what the bible says about it. I find it more offensive when one claims to abide by the bible, claims a monopoly on adherence to the bible, and then has the doctrine that, even if they can prove the Filthful and Disgraceful Slavebugger wrong using their own bible, they still have to abide by and teach the bad doctrine until the Filthful and Disgraceful Slavebugger itself alters it. Are they abiding by the bible as they gleefully claim to, or by man's doctrine despite that the bible explicitly tells us not to?

Or, they can simply abandon the whole bible and be free from it. Once they start declaring that the bible is simply a book to use black magic to enslave the whole earth, they no longer have to abide by it. Once they see jesus as nothing more than the archetype of the perfect slave or that "original sin" is another infinite-debt tool, they no longer are bound to adhere to jesus. But, until then, they are contradicting themselves by claiming to adhere to the bible and jesus and then negating both.