Posts by WTWizard

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Middle class elders and pioneering children

by Steel in

i was looking at my hall the other day some of the upper elders who are retired now have had some pretty good jobs and lives of relative comfort.

i am not exactly sure what the education levels were but they were white collar.

most likely started in a world where you didn’t need a lot of education to get a head.

WTWizard

I never saw any point in making rules that I didn't intend on following myself. Having your children living destitute while you were well off is not my idea of following your own rules. Unless the poverty is simply a matter of bad luck or a choice between that or something even worse, I simply cannot see the point of imposing it volitionally on your children. Of course, that is going on through the whole organization--pushing children to pious-sneer instead of having decent jobs. Often the parents pushing this did not quit their jobs to pious-sneer.

At least the Nazis practiced their own rules. Hitler, born at a time when it was expected for all men to smoke if they wanted to go anywhere, ended up throwing his cancer sticks in the river before pushing an anti-smoking campaign (which is still saving lives to this date, to the extent it was copied). Do those hounders, who gleefully bash Hitler, even follow their own rules?

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2019 Annual Meeting: more F.O.G.

by neat blue dog in

after the new construction project is announced, anthony morris the turd gives a talk where he arrogantly tells the audience to 'get over it' and get to work.

he says relaxing is fine and 'im not trying to put a guilt trip on you' but you all need to get busy.

no graciousness at all for the endless volunteer labor they demand for whatever new projects they dream up.

WTWizard

Working--on what? Do those working on it actually get to benefit, or are they putting all hopes and attention on these wasteful projects that should be on personal situations? As far as I see, they can take those projects and shove them all down the toilet.

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The Governing Body Doesn't Wait On Jehovah

by Afterburn in

have you ever been told that humility requires waiting on jehovah?i have.

lots of times.

for decades.

WTWizard

They claim to abide by the bible, and have the monopoly on it. My challenge is, why is it not possible to use the bible and just the bible, and get the truth out of it? They can't even handle the bible, let alone the actual truth.

As I don't claim to abide by the bible or that joke-hova provides anything but misery and enslavement for those following it, I am not bound by any of that. But, when they tell people to wait on joke-hova and then go ahead (or, worse, back and forth), they are hypocrites. Better they would be if they simply ditched the bible, openly, and proclaimed open communism (which is, in fact, what they are doing--but with the bible as their blind). They are taking a bad situation (that they are communists) and making it worse by tying the bible into it and then hypocritically not abiding by it. They deserve even worse trouble--bad enough to push communism, but they deserve worse for lying about it.

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How many here believe the WTS really has has 8.5 million followers / 8.5. million members

by Hotpepper in

i think it's closer to 5 million with all the selling of kingdom hells and branch bethel's all over the world.

it's even hard to get a hard copy of the lastest craptower or afake mag now in new york city..

WTWizard

If you go by "one that will, according to their own theology, survive Armageddon if it were to happen right now", I think the number is well under 8.5 million. I think it is under 5 million, as well. I wonder how many of them are simply turning in fake time or having fake time turned in on their behalf. Others are doing it simply for show, or because it's their means of controlling others' lives. Still others are not "doing enough"--they are simply doing enough to avoid hounding, but not all they possibly can. Remember, according to their theology, they need to do all they absolutely can (not "reasonably", absolutely) and with "pure motive" in order to survive.

If I use that measure, the numbers are actually going to be way lower. How many are making 200 high quality hours of field circus simply for joke-hova's sake? Not very. I would say the numbers should be down in 6 figures, not 7.

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Watch Tower's Popularity

by dydeonwl in

watchtower has been named as world's most published and circulated magazine in us.

amazing.

source:.

WTWizard

Maybe back in the 1960s, 70s, and 80s when that was the alternative to the lamestream. But, that all changed sometime in the 1990s when the Internet came along. That made it possible for everyone to write their own experiences about the jokehovians, blabbing that it is no different from other religions at best, to far worse and comparable to the cat lick church during the dark ages at worst. It also made possible the blabbing about the whole bible and quran being full of lies, intended to enslave the whole earth, rather than just being misunderstood or having a few mistakes.

There were once-good magazines that have been turned to rubbish. Prevention, once about preventing people from getting sick, now pushes the same drugs that everyone else including the Sickness Channel pushes (to me, prevention is not getting sick at all). Consumer Reports was once a good source of information to steer clear from rubbish products, and that has become a garbage political rag as well. Reader's Digest is another once-good magazine that has become leftist propaganda. But, at least all these were once good (I doubt that today, any real good magazines would get published). Which is more than can be said about the washtowel rags, which were rubbish from the beginning and are still rubbish.

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Will God resurrect our beloved pets? What do you think?

by Pallbearer in

the watchtower doesn't hold out any hope for us ever seeing our beloved animals again.

i find it very difficult to believe that god -- a god of love -- would refuse to resurrect an animal that we had become so attached to.

over the years i have bonded with no less than four (4) dogs, all of which were/are like family to me.

WTWizard

Just goes to show what joke-hova thinks of animals. I have no respect for a god that treats animals as expendable. While sometimes it is necessary to kill animals (for food, to control populations of animals that can become pests, or in self defense), wanton abuse of animals is not excused. And offering them up as sacrifices to this blood-thirsty god is not acceptable--the animal's soul is used as energy to help that thing enslave the whole world.

And belittling the bond between a pet and its owner is just as bad. Some pets can last as long as 60 years, given proper care. Dogs and cats tend to last 12 years or so, and some breeds can approach 30 years if given excellent care. Yes, I believe that one should not own a pet that they cannot properly care for. But, this is not the case in many cases. There are people that can and do properly care for dogs and cats, even building structures on their whole homes for them. These animals have souls, too. They can become attached to people that properly care for them--why then, after maybe 20 years, does this god expect people to suddenly not care for them at all? Even a pet rat, which is lucky to make it much past 3 years old, can become attached to someone.

Or, I would like to see someone's pet parakeet (which can last as long as 60 years, given good care) dying after a long life, and have its owner not feel anything for it simply because joke-hova wants all that energy to help enslave the whole planet. I would rather see joke-hova dead--preferably by the most inhumane way possible, than seeing a mouse dying.

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Providing salvation is not that important

by pixel in

the washtowel has a crazy obsession with diminishing the important of jesus' sacrifice for humankind.

i find this so antichristian.

i mean, how can you ignore scriptures like john 3:16?.

WTWizard

And the washtowel claims to be xian. The last I checked, christian means believing that we are all inherent sinners through Adam, that jesus came to deal with such sin, and that we must accept that sacrifice to be "saved". It does not mean having to do additional works, such as spreading that filth from door to door. It does not mean abandoning all your celebrations--even in the bible, we are not supposed to judge others for such festivities (I will, however, judge anyone whose idea of celebration includes drink driving, since that does endanger everyone else on the roads).

Now, if they claim to be the only true xians, that binds them to what the bible says about it. I find it more offensive when one claims to abide by the bible, claims a monopoly on adherence to the bible, and then has the doctrine that, even if they can prove the Filthful and Disgraceful Slavebugger wrong using their own bible, they still have to abide by and teach the bad doctrine until the Filthful and Disgraceful Slavebugger itself alters it. Are they abiding by the bible as they gleefully claim to, or by man's doctrine despite that the bible explicitly tells us not to?

Or, they can simply abandon the whole bible and be free from it. Once they start declaring that the bible is simply a book to use black magic to enslave the whole earth, they no longer have to abide by it. Once they see jesus as nothing more than the archetype of the perfect slave or that "original sin" is another infinite-debt tool, they no longer are bound to adhere to jesus. But, until then, they are contradicting themselves by claiming to adhere to the bible and jesus and then negating both.

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Why Are There So Many International Words to Poop and Pee?

by RubaDub in

jw
friends

here, in the us, we go to the "bathroom".

am i taking a bath?

we either poop or pee.. when we go to canada, we go to the "washroom".

WTWizard

It is the church's fault. They take the original words and make them taboo. So, someone comes up with substitute words--and the church makes those words taboo, too. All to shut down communication--the better to enslave the whole world with.

Yet, some of those words are right in that bible. How many times have I seen the word "dung" right in the bible? I saw the word "puke" in the bible once--and that was the actual word, not "vomit" (which I have seen quite a few times in addition to that occurrence in Jeremiah 25. All to compare humanity with manure--just goes to show what joke-hova thinks of humanity aside its "chosen people".

Even the word "pee" is an abbreviation of the original word that the church has made taboo. Instead of "the P word", they take the first letter and spell out how it sounds. Since there is already a word "pea" that sounds like it (the vegetable), they spell it "pee". Of course, the churches are not too happy with that word, either. So they invent terms to further hide it--"wash room" (to me, that is a place where you get washed up or do laundry), "bathroom" (isn't that a place where you take a bath?), "rest room" (the last time I knew, no one rested in a rest room, unless they are trying to sleep on the job without getting caught), "water closet" (where is the water for drinking or cleaning there?).

I guess the churches are afraid of necessary body functions. Of course, they could use the French term "urinate" and "defecate"--but, even then it is not disguised well enough (the more coarse terms originate with Germanic Old English). Maybe it's time to disguise "going to church" by using "going to help joke-hova enslave the world". At least that is more accurate.

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Changes bible verses

by asp59 in

slave class always quoted this text genesis 6:22, kjv: " according to all that god commanded him, so did he.

" when referring to the work they done for god.. in later years they been using this text when it comes to slave class “jehovah knows those who belong to him.” (2 timothy 2:19; numbers 16:5).

they already stated in jw broadcast that maybe some arrangement they made wrong.

WTWizard

If they are "only human", then why are people required to abide by their decisions when someone could see the fallacy? Or, perhaps they cannot tolerate that people could see that, not only are their decisions faulty but the whole bible? Then their true fathers the reptilians would not have their energy to enslave us all, torture all human souls, and eventually claim ownership of our planet so they can conquer all other planets at will.

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Not invited to congregation “get togethers”. They finally said it

by solomon in

jw
friends

we don’t get many invitations to congregational social gatherings.

we don’t attend midweek meetings and miss about 1/3 of sunday meetings.

we go in service at least once a month.

WTWizard

Sounds like communism. They get you stuck within their organization, cutting you off from association with the world and preventing you from forming any meaningful association outside. Then they impose that, unless you give "enough" energy to the reptilians for the purpose of enslaving all mankind while ruining the environment for us so they can move in on the planet, you will also be cut off from them. What is "enough"? Do they feel you are missing any boasting sessions or that you could be putting in 200 hours a month of top quality field circus, while obeying every last nuance of jokehovian rule?