What's your point?
Fe2O3Girl
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Fe2O3Girl
http://business.guardian.co.uk/story/0,,2153163,00.html
I love the bit about the tobacco companies providing a website for smokers to find the best pubs for smoking! How community minded of them. And how they are relying on "emerging markets" i.e. the third world, to make up the drop in consumption in the West.
Cigarette sales dropped nearly 7% last month after a smoking ban was introduced in England.
Smokers bought 6.9% fewer cigarettes in the four weeks to July 28 than in the same period last year, according to figures from consumer research group AC Nielsen. Sales were down 1.2% in June, ahead of the ban.
Anti-smoking campaigners ASH welcomed the news. "This is a good sign," a spokeswoman said. "As expected, smokers appear to be cutting back on the number of cigarettes they smoke. We also expect many will use the smoking ban as a trigger to help them quit altogether."
The fall in July mirrors the 6-8% declines in cigarette consumption seen after smoking bans in public places were imposed in Ireland in 2004 and in Scotland last spring.
Citigroup analyst Adam Spielman said: "Over time the impact [on the tobacco industry] ameliorated, such that the full-year impact was in the low single digits."
In addition, the wet weather in July is likely to have deterred smokers from using the outdoor smoking facilities at pubs and restaurants.
Tobacco giants British American Tobacco (BAT), Gallaher and Imperial Tobacco have set up a website for smokers to help them find pubs with good outdoor smoking facilities such as awnings and beer gardens.
Gallaher, which was recently bought by Japan Tobacco, saw a 6.6% drop in cigarette sales in July while Imperial suffered a 6.9% drop. Gallaher and Imperial dominate the UK market whereas Marlboro maker Philip Morris, which saw sales drop 10.1%, and BAT, where sales were down 8.3%, have small market shares.
Imperial, maker of the Lambert & Butler, Richmond, and Davidoff brands, holds the view that smoking bans usually lead to an initial dip in smoking, but believes that consumption will rise again gradually over time.
The tobacco group is also counting on buoyant consumption in emerging markets to make up for the shortfall in western countries.
Imperial shares were down 24p at £21.14 this morning.
Borders, the book chain, has seen sales of books helping people to quit smoking soar by 260%.
Nielsen said its figures only cover sales through retail and do not include sales through pubs or vending machines. But it had expected "sales to initially fall as has been the trend in other countries which have introduced such a ban so these figures do not come as a surprise.
"Wet weather, an increase in advertising and promotion for smoking cessation products and the fact that in July 2006 we had the World Cup would also combine to affect market trends in the month of July and would contribute to any market declines."
Early evidence shows that 97% of businesses have enforced the smoking ban in England. A survey of local authorities commissioned by the Department of Health found that in London, 99% of businesses were compliant within the first two weeks of the ban coming into effect on July 1.
The south-west had the lowest rate of compliance, but even there 94% of businesses were upholding the law. During the first two weeks, just 45 written warnings were issued to smokers and only one fixed penalty notice was issued.
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The warm and fuzzy, snuggly, cuddly thread.
by nicolaou inokay i felt a bit sick typing out that title but having been a wee bit 'prickly' in my last few threads i thought i might try this on for size - not sure how well it's going to suit me.. what makes you feel content?
at peace and restful?.
i just spent the last couple of hours reading in my recliner.
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Fe2O3Girl
Being here:
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Fun family study? Tolerable?
by Gopher inwas there ever such at thing in jw families, or is this phrase oxymoronic?.
sometimes the meetings encouraged "variety" in family studies, assigning certain research projects to different family members, or setting up a bible reading as though it were a play.. none of that happened in my family.
it was just dry question-and-answer.
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Fe2O3Girl
I mean, you would never say what you REALLY thought! What was the point?
didn't you read my post? You said what you REALLY thought so you'd get sent to your room and no tv.
that was probably just me.
lisaLOL. Actually, after I posted, I was thinking that when I was a kid, I really did believe it. A combination of desire for parental approval and simply never being presented with an alternative reality kept me believing for a long time. Even so, there was always a gap between how I was supposed to feel and supposed to behave and what actually happened. So, I would never admit that I fancied boys, and the meetings were boring and the ministry was embarrassing.
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Need Everybody's Help!!
by Metamorphosis inok - i've placed myself in a make or break situation.
i don't post a lot so you may not be familiar with me, but feel free to read my initial post on my situation.
a little has changed - i've now not turned in a service report the last two months (june and july) - first time in 25+ years, it feels great!
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Fe2O3Girl
Metamorphosis,
Your document, although lengthy, is well written and presented. Is it as easy as that? If it was, would there be any high control religious groups?
I can only offer a string of questions.
What do you hope to achieve? Why is your wife a JW? What does she get out of it? What would happen to her if she left? Are her family JWs? What is the most important thing in her life? You? God? Her family? The structure and community of the congregation?
The 607/587 debate crystallised all my doubts, but I had already left, and I had understood and believed it. A lot of JWs don't understand the chronolgy anyway - that isn't what matters to them.
Really understand what matters to your wife first. And consider what you really want, too. What if she won't have a child with you unless you raise it togather as a JW? Will you stay together, childless?
I really do wish you all the best, Meta. There isn't a magic key that will deprogram any JW, and anyone who leads you to believe that showing her this or telling her that will work is doing you (and Mrs Metamorphosis) a disservice.
Other than this: continue to reassure her of your love for her.
Rachel
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Fun family study? Tolerable?
by Gopher inwas there ever such at thing in jw families, or is this phrase oxymoronic?.
sometimes the meetings encouraged "variety" in family studies, assigning certain research projects to different family members, or setting up a bible reading as though it were a play.. none of that happened in my family.
it was just dry question-and-answer.
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Fe2O3Girl
The family study was sporadic at best. I think my dad joined in sometimes, but my main memory is studying the old "Youth" book with my mum. Excruciating. We never did any fun activities. Read the paragraph, answer the question. Read the paragraph, answer the question. Occasionally pressed to express my own thoughts and feelings, responding with the correct answer.
I mean, you would never say what you REALLY thought! What was the point?
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I'm just curious
by RAF in.
i'm just curious to get the point ... what did you find the most satisfying in your relationship (i mean serious relationship which is supposed to last) with your other half after 5 to 10 years:.
a listing would be nice in the preferential order like.
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Fe2O3Girl
It is hard to reduce the complexities of a relationship to bullet points, let alone to prioritise them.
It is a partnership. It is someone to rely on. Two heads are better than one, two hearts and two wages are better than one! It is a learning experience.
1 - Support. Emotional, financial, ect.
2 - Sex! Of course! I can't believe no-one else has listed this. I am not living with my brother!
3 - Friendship. Good times, laughs, learning, sharing.
3 - Parenthood, which wouldn't happen without the first three.
Rachel
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My husband.
Tony Benn.
Stephen Fry.
Amelia Pankhurst.
Marie Stopes.
Aneurin Bevan.
Dick Grantly-Read.
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What are you reading?
by Hortensia init's rather quiet on the jwd forum tonight - probably you are all out partying, eh?
i'm wondering what's in the pile of books by your chair or bed?
i have a couple of mysteries, robert barnard's newest one and a really old arthur upfield.
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Fe2O3Girl
" A poignant, practical, light-hearted and celebratory look at raising boys with a strong and controversial message, asking that parents and the education system take responsibility for the 'feminisation' of boys, in much the same way as attention was paid to the 'masculinisation' of girls. Media and government attention is now being focussed on the fact that girls are outperforming boys academically but no mention is made of what kind of husbands and fathers they will make. With many families stretched to breaking point on the rack of mismatched expectations, boys need guidance on juggling work and family in the same way as girls are expected to; becoming domesticated as well as surviving in the jungle of accepted notions of 'masculinity'.
The vital message is that boys, like girls, should have choices and should not be forced into the stereotypical role of the male as absent father or football fan. That's My Boy! covers boys' lives from birth to 18 and discusses everything from how a mother deals with the shock of caring for and maintaining a member of the opposite sex, how to endure hours spent on a rugby touchline, how to read the signs that indicate a longing for physical affection and whether or not to laugh at sexist jokes they bring home."
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"... you can't say to someone 'look it isn't really like that' because
by educ8self in" that's a quote from a lecture given at naropa university on 12 levels of consciousness (or initiation, to use another term) that i go back to from time to time.
i won't get into the whole thing but a recent experience with someone with kind of an innocent attitude helped me appreciate this point.
one of the things said was when you've reached a higher level (which is not to imply better in any sense of personal worth, but simply more inclusive in scope/perspective) you automatically have compassion on those who have not reached that level.
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Fe2O3Girl
Interesting post. Your comments reminded me of an interview with Edward de Bono:
De Bono does not believe in arguments. "They are the most crude way of getting a solution," he says. "Usually in an argument, I can see the other person's point of view. It comes down to three basic things: different information, different perception and different values. Once you can see where people come from you can consider if the other person has better information and compare their values and perceptions to yours. I am willing to listen."
http://education.guardian.co.uk/academicexperts/story/0,,2063751,00.html
