It's an exceedingly scary thing to say because if the WT leaders told JW's to jump off of a cliff to show their loyalty to " Jehovah " - some of them would do it ! That's the danger of WT leaders absolute control over these people. Remember Jim Jones & David Koresh. It's not that far fetched that WT leaders if backed into a corner with the possibility of losing their billions of $$$ might try something similar. Nothing they do would surprise me at this point in time
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Strange
by Jrjw ina couple of times at the meetings this year we've been told that in the future we might get some strange directions from the society that might not make any sense to us.
then they've said will we show our loyalty to jehovah by still obeying?
seems a rather unusual thing to say.
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Worldy governments and the WTBTS are closer than most think
by no-zombie inevery day i read the web log of generational dynamics.
it a political/current affairs commentary, which over the years has proved to be quite insightful.
however, today's commentary (for the 23rd) is quite relevant for witnesses and i encourage you to have a look at it, if you have a few minutes.
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flipper
Indeed. I see no difference between how the Trump regime works and the WT Society leadership. Both dictatorships. Oh boy , I better hide behind a rock- I see the arrows flying at me now ! lol
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Visited My Grandfather
by Saethydd inmy grandfather is a longtime jw with advanced parkinson's.
on the advice of a good friend mine who is inactive but not "out" i went to visit him monday and we talked for awhile.
his health isn't well, but he was happy to see me.
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It's really sad how snarky and rude JW family can be to us. I've experienced that treatment as well. Don't let it stop you from visiting your grandfather- especially since he enjoys your visits ! THAT is what's important here- that HE wants to see you, not the other part of the family. He's at the stage of life where HIS wishes should be honored , not cult infested relatives who don't have an ounce of empathy. You are doing great visiting your grandpa ! Keep up the great humanity and caring ! Keep visiting him ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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Do you have a place to get away from it all?
by compound complex inis your retreat .
an actual location, or simply a quiet place in your mind?.
i attended a concert on sunday, a featured piece having been commissioned by a composer who lives in the city but retreats to an island in the puget sound (usa) to write his music.
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As some others stated- my music and songwriting, and playing guitar or banjo helps me get away into another world. When I sit out on my deck overlooking into the forested canyon below sipping iced tea or a beer- yeah, that's the life I enjoy. Just staying home chillin'
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Welcome me
by natasha inhello brothers and sisters am new here , what is the website all about ?.
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flipper
Welcome to the board Natasha ! Nice to have you here sister ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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Encounter with a long time elder. (Jehovah's happy people)
by freddo inso i'm at work and go to my vehicle parked outside the empty property i'm working at and an elderly man comes out of next door and we recognise each other from when we were elders in the same circuit.
he is early 80's in age, a jw since the 1960's and so the next generation in age up from me.. he's an outwardly jolly sort and asks how i am etc.
(knows i'm not an elder but thinks i'm pimi) and asks if i want a cup of tea so i go in and sit in his kitchen for my lunchbreak and have a chat.. i have a little fish around and ask about how jw's in his hall are.
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FREDDO- Thanks for sharing this experience. Very sad for this man. Reminds me of how my older parents were before they died. Especially my elder dad. I feel my mom had broken out of the WT mindset, but my dad held on to the end. Very sad as all these older JW's were promised they'd NEVER die ! Which was and remains an outright lie. I feel sorry for them that they were so trapped inside the WT inside their heads through mind control- that they never felt they had any other options not even exiting the Witnesses.
For many of them - the shock of having the rug pulled out from under them after 50 or 60 years - would have been enough to kill them from heartbreak or heart attacks or strokes quite possibly. Many people at that age aren't able to make these changes and face up to the fact that they just wasted their entire life on a fantasy - or a pipe dream
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A Former Jehovah's Witness shares her me too story
by LisaRose inhttps://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/12/16/a-former-jehovahs-witness-shares-her-metoo-story/.
when i was 23 years old, i started dating a (jehovah’s) witness boy and we’d go out to some dance clubs.
there was a night in particular where i had too much to drink.
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flipper
LISA ROSE- Thanks for the opening thread. Because of observing this from a man's standpoint in whom his mother raised him up right in respecting equal rights of women I find it disgusting how this poor woman was treated by these elders and the man who raped her. When a woman says no, she means no. These elders bringing down the hammer of blame on her by disfellowshipping her was disgusting. And how many hundreds if not thousands of times have JW judicial committees made those kind of unjust decisions in the past ?
That was part of what caused me to exit this disgusting organization back in 2003. I observed many times elders always acting like they were appointed by " God " himself - even when they gave out idiotic counsel and insanely stupid judgments ! As in this woman's case. I experienced very unjust treatment as well from JW elders.
To treat rape the same way as two consenting adults having sex is nothing but abuse of the victim involved. It's like they've had an open sore or scab torn open again by insensitive men who don't have an ounce of sensitivity within them.
Ladies- not all men on this planet are like that. There are many of us who get totally outraged at this abusive conduct towards women just like you do. And we are those men who will stand up right along side you in women's marches for equal rights and treatment.
Whether it's abuse towards women or minor children being abused- I feel we all have a responsibility to call it what it is- crimes against humanity and abuse of power. It's how I see this. Whether it happens by government officials, or within religions being winked at by elders in JW's or pastors of churches - it needs to be vigorously exposed and prevented and stopped
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Leah Remini Returning to A&E to Investigate JWs
by AMNESIANO in“the first episode will be about jehovah witnesses and another episode will be about nxivm, a controversial self-empowerment group, according to the source.”.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/leah-remini-returning-to-ae-to-investigate-other-cult-like-religions/amp/.
amnesian.
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flipper
This is really fantastic news. More and more exposure of what goes on inside the WT Society needs to be exposed. WT deserves to get what's coming to them
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if pre 1975 you said "The system will still be here late 2017" what would be the J.W's reaction?
by karter inone word for it.....apostate!
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ALANV- My deepest condolences to you on the loss of your wife. I wish, for your sake and hers that she would have left the JW organization before she died. However, just the fact that she made that statement to you- shows that she had her doubts about the WT organization. Take care, Sincerely, Mr. Flipper
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Very interesting ! Thanks for putting this together. I find it really interesting regarding the graph titled ' Max Publisher Increase in % ' . From the year 2000 until here in 2017, the increase has been at 3 % or lower, really has gone downward since the 21st century started. Good news. Perhaps people are waking up to the scam called the WT Society