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  Skinned and Thrown About.....

  by Tech49 in

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  this is a little long, but stick with me.. if you recall, when the building work was in full swing at the new lakefront villa (warwick), wt was having workers come and they would put them up for a year, or more, while they were providing "volunteer services".

  with that, and the impending need for hundreds and hundreds of new khs in the usa territory, the congregations were abuzz with the need for "continued construction volunteers".

  recently, as many of you know, wt headquarters has sent pretty much everyone home, and is no longer needing workers at the new warwick site, as the building is mostly complete, with the dedication coming up later this year.

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  Interesting thread. Thanks for sharing. And really sad as well. Just like the GB member Ted Jaracz stated in the early 1980's - " the needs of the organization take priority over the individual needs of the brothers and sisters. " Or something like that.

  So your experiences you related prove testimony to that fact. WT Society will throw any of it's members under the bus if the " needs " change with WT leaders priorities. And at this time and moment in WT history- the needs and priorities involve saving $$$ so the WT Society can pay off child abuse lawsuits. As well as storing billions $$$$ in their offshore bank accounts . Pretty disgusting. More lives are wrecked from this organization and it's leaders - numbering in the millions worldwide
  
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  No Longer a JW Expert But Starting to Figure Out Life

  by AllTimeJeff in

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  consider this an update for those that remember me here.... when i left in 2006, it started a 10 year journey into a new phase.

  no more "safety".

  some people want to be their own person.

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  flipper

  Good points Jeff. Like yourself in many ways I " blew up the bridge " to a large extent when I stopped attending in 2003. I view it like you do in that all we have is the rest of our life from here on out- so why not make the best out of that life that we can and enjoy it ? Totally. I'm glad to see that you've moved on and you are enjoying life, Good for you . Take care, Peace out, Mr. Flipper
  
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  Religion...is regarded by the rulers as useful

  by flipper in

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  lucius annaeus seneca, roman statesman, 4bc - 65ad: "religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.".

  this comes to mind as trump has been throwing the word "god" around.

  there are a lot of outwardly religious people in this government.. benjamin franklin: "the way to see faith is to shut the eye of reason.".

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  flipper

  Great thread my dear wife. I agree- I feel religion has been used for thousands of years by governments and the wealthy as a tool or a vehicle to keep large groups of people controlled and submissive to their detriment. We see it all the time today and throughout history.

  I believe Trump like other politicians before him- will use religion insofar as it benefits his agenda to consolidate his power and control over the American people. Once again- it will be used as a vehicle or tool for him to get what he wants. Power and esteem- at least in his own assessment of himself
  
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  Leah Remini - Scientology Documentary

  by tresdecu in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know some has been posted about leah remini and her split from scientology.

  i just wanted to add after finishing it last night, it is a must watch for questioning jws...every episode has familiar situations and parallels that will make jws really think (or squirm).

  watch it with someone you want to wake up!!!!

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  My wife and I watched every episode of Leah's show- it was fantastic and well done. Leah and Mike Rinder really exposed the workings of what goes on in Scientology as well as many mind control cults. The final show with Steve Hassan on it was outstanding. He and Leah were even crying on it due to the stresses of having been in cults themselves. I was crying with them. I hope they are able to come back and have more shows in the series.

  Thanks Toes Up for the heads up on the Conan O' Brien show with Leah Remini on it. We'll have to watch that on demand on Xfinity. Peace out, mr. Flipper
  
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  Religion...is regarded by the rulers as useful

  by flipper in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  lucius annaeus seneca, roman statesman, 4bc - 65ad: "religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.".

  this comes to mind as trump has been throwing the word "god" around.

  there are a lot of outwardly religious people in this government.. benjamin franklin: "the way to see faith is to shut the eye of reason.".

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  flipper

  Lucius Annaeus Seneca, Roman Statesman, 4BC - 65AD: "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."

  This comes to mind as Trump has been throwing the word "God" around. There are a lot of outwardly religious people in this government.

  Benjamin Franklin: "The way to see faith is to shut the eye of reason."

  And Napoleon Bonaparte: "There must be religion - otherwise the poor would murder the rich."

  " " " "Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet."

  Mrs Flipper
  
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  This site should be called Anti-Jehovahs-Witnesses Cry-babies

  by the-Question in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so, you left because of a bad example(s).. why all the whining?

  nothing better to do with your time?.

  you at least know far more about the bible than any church-goer?.

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  flipper

  The Question- Educate yourself by reading on the Internet. Many of us left the JW organization because it IS a criminal organization and cannot support it any longer. What's YOUR excuse for staying ? You enjoy supporting criminals ? Peace out, Mr. Flipper
  
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  This site should be called Anti-Jehovahs-Witnesses Cry-babies

  by the-Question in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so, you left because of a bad example(s).. why all the whining?

  nothing better to do with your time?.

  you at least know far more about the bible than any church-goer?.

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  flipper

  Are you getting points with Jehovah for being on this site?

  There is a lot more going on here than debating the bible (which is a bunch of bs anyway).

  Like exposing the many crimes of the despicable watchtower. Like helping people who are being shunned by their entire families and friends.

  Crybabies? for wanting to expose child abuse? But of course, being a jw you can't imagine that being anywhere near as important as protecting the organization. Or reading all your holy propaganda. What a sad way to live.

  Mrs. Flipper
  
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  Millions now living will never die

  by stillin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  but pretty much all of them are now dead.

  and so are billions of others.

  so, god doesn't desire any to be destroyed but desires all to attain to repentance?

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  flipper

  " Millions once living- are now all dead " . Take a look on any Ancestry.com account family tree and a person can see that's true

  P.S. As well as anybody walking through a graveyard .
  
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  So, the Womens March ... What Is It For?

  by Simon in

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  it seems like mobilizing after the election, which seems pointless.

  i keep hearing demands for equal rights but don't understand what rights they are missing exactly.. normally a march is to show the support (and potential votes) for a cause, but ... votes for what?

  ... and the election happened already.. is anyone else confused?

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  flipper

  Amen, praise Jesus Berengaria
  
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  So, the Womens March ... What Is It For?

  by Simon in

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  it seems like mobilizing after the election, which seems pointless.

  i keep hearing demands for equal rights but don't understand what rights they are missing exactly.. normally a march is to show the support (and potential votes) for a cause, but ... votes for what?

  ... and the election happened already.. is anyone else confused?

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  flipper

  Bless your heart, azor. This kind of arguing is exhausting and I sure hope it accomplishes something.

  My personal view of the whole march is that the chickens are coming home to roost. The lower classes are getting desperate. It's kind of like panic. To ask what they are marching for - I think what they all have in common is a sense of urgency.

  The new government has a good portion of people who think God favors them. Yikes. The poor may be thought of expendable. There are plenty of them, after all.
  

  Some of the marchers have a very clear purpose and hopefully will organize. Some are unstable to begin with. Some are the left's Trump personality - Madonna.

  I am 61 - my generation has seen the steady growth of inequality. A lot of us have been working full time, 2 jobs at times, have never gotten ahead because of the real wages falling. It was different for my parents. They don't want to see it - they voted for Trump.

  Trump may "create jobs" but what will the wages be.

  Overall I don't have a lot of hope for change. Look what happened to Arab Spring and other uprisings in recent years. You can vote people in but if the ruling class cant bribe or blackmail them, they can always threaten them.

  I hope a little caffeine will lift my mood this morning.

  Mrs. Flipper