Posts by flipper

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2 elders just came to my door. I smiled and told them no.

by schnell in

not playing their game, as i've learned here.

they came to my door to find me with a full beard and a nightmare before christmas hoody, playing a video game where the characters "do not act according to bible principles", and i happily answered the door.

i simply smiled and told them no when they asked if i have a minute.

flipper

SCHNELL - Thanks for the you tube. I agree most definitely- JW pedophiles should NEVER be allowed to go out in service in my opinion, alone or with somebody else. It's disgusting that this JW pedophile tried to PM your wife on Facebook - that's good that you stood up to him and made your position clear and to protect your wife. These pedophiles are predators and anything that can be done to expose them like the you tube on Cedars site is a noble and good thing to do. Good luck to you in your post-JW life my friend ! Take care, Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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Spain: Israel, molested at 5 years and committed to silent his abuse. Juan, disfellowshipped for enquiring about molestation, sexual abuse

by sp74bb in

weblink:.

http://www.elperiodico.com/es/noticias/sociedad/dos-denuncias-mas-contra-ley-del-silencio-los-testigos-jehova-5633266#.

translation:.

flipper

Good for Mr. Bourgon and Mr. Florez for speaking up and exposing the criminal acts of child abuse within the JW organization. If more and more people within the ranks of JW's start telling their experiences to the media it will cause more awareness on a global scale and perhaps leaders of this criminal organization will be held accountable for their awful child abuse policies. WT leaders have gotten away far too long with too many crimes to count. Thanks for posting this

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2 elders just came to my door. I smiled and told them no.

by schnell in

not playing their game, as i've learned here.

they came to my door to find me with a full beard and a nightmare before christmas hoody, playing a video game where the characters "do not act according to bible principles", and i happily answered the door.

i simply smiled and told them no when they asked if i have a minute.

flipper

SCHNELL- Very good job. Keep them at bay. Question for you : Was the pedophile that called on you working in service alone ? Or did he have another JW partner with him at your door ? Just curious as these pedophiles allegedly aren't supposed to work in field service by themselves calling on doors

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Depression, Anger and Anxiety

by Sorry in

for the last few months, i feel like i've been going through the 5 stages of grief.

lately, it's been happening simultaneously.

in my other posts, i've expressed anger at my family and congregation for their thoughtless ways.

flipper

SORRY- You have a great boyfriend who is very understanding . Count yourself lucky. My wife was never a JW as well and these last 10 years we 've been together she has shown a tremendous amount of support to me in the 13 years I've been out of the Witnesses. We are here as a support to you as well, hang in there, you'll make it fine- just be patient with yourself and give it time. It takes time to heal

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Need input: elders showed up at our door today

by de-opresso-liber in

so as i announced last week, my wife and i started our fade and i sent in a letter to our body that i was stepping down and cited the arc as the reason and insisted that we not be bothered.

my wife told a few relatives in person that we weren't going to attend meetings any longer (immediate shunning occurred, the new videos must be effective) and that what we found with the arc shocked us etc etc.

i have an inside track on how this is all going down by an awake elder on the body, co told them to handle the matter quickly.

flipper

I would be careful giving out information to the elder you say that is " helping " you- he may be a double agent- if you get my drift. Many of these elders play " good cop, bad cop" and are really just " plants " put there from the C.O. to cozy up to you to get more information. Be smart, be wary. From one who has been there. We are here as a support to you, hang in there

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Hello everyone

by Lancashirelass in

jw
friends

i just wanted to add my name to the many number of people who have awakened from the cult.

i have been lurking for probably 2 years now.

and i'm quite certain there are many more lurking and reading just like me.. i have to be honest and say that i most likely will not be contributing much to the discussion board.

flipper

LANCASHIRELASS- Welcome to the board . And welcome to freedom of mind. You are not alone . I exited the JW's 13 years ago was a second generation born-in JW. Being able to think for ourselves is fantastic. Take care, Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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"Are Jehovah’s Witnesses free to make informed decisions about blood transfusions?" - Canadian article

by OrphanCrow in

this is an excellent article written by 3 faculty members in the cumming school of medicine, university of calgary - juliet guichon, ian mitchell and christopher doig.. http://healthydebate.ca/opinions/blood-transfusions-jehovahs-witnesses#comment-2866324.

it is encouraging to know that the voices that have been raised against the blood ban are being heard.

the work that so many people have done is now bearing fruit.. in 20th century canada, jehovah’s witnesses were persecuted for their proselytizing and wartime pacifism.

flipper

WT Society needs to continue to be exposed regarding this death dealing blood transfusion policy. Too many people have died, too many people have suffered. WT Society and it's leaders need to be brought up on criminal charges of murder. Good luck on getting that to happen- but it needs to happen. Thanks for posting this ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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RANT: Isn't Cognitive Dissonance Amazing?

by Sorry in

this is piggybacking off my previous post (about my 'personal study').

while i haven't been a long time member, i'm sure if you have my posts you'll know that i'm disenchanted with the wt and am just grunting and bearing until i have a stable enough support system to break away.

however, lately i'm just getting extremely angry at nearly everything that's going on.

flipper

We see cognizant dissonance in the JW organization and we saw it in the recent election of Trump for president. The world is chalk full of people who are confused , ill informed, ignorant and or stupid- or in denial

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Election Post-Mortem

by Simon in

i'm sure many people, republicans included, are shocked at the results of the 2016 presidential election.

really, wtf!.

the polls were wrong and although it's tempting to blame voter suppression and fbi interference, that would just avoid looking at the real issues for the loss.

flipper

Really ? I feel that anybody upholding Trump with his negative baggage as the potential best choice we had in America to be president is an absolute dumb-ass. And I feel Hillary was a close second as well with her negative baggage.

Look- here's the deal. Now that Trump is president-elect - it sets a dangerous precedent. Any minor white child in America can look at his " example " and see that if he gropes females and treats them in a disrespectful way , even sexually assaults them, he can run for president and get elected. If a minor white child has racial prejudice towards those with another skin color- guess what ? It may enable that minor child to be president of the United States some day !

THAT is what electing Trump will do to minor white children under the age of 18. This idiotic country I live in that's voted and enabled a sexual predator and racist into the White House is wittingly or unwittingly enabling millions of white U.S. minor children to accept this kind of behavior as " good " because gee golly- a person could run for president and WIN with these kinds of attitudes ! Millions of U.S. citizens who are dumb as rocks don't realize what kind of dangerous Pandora's box they've opened. I truly fear for this country.

I understand the anger of many young people demonstrating in U.S. cities right now. I'm tempted to join them. They are a hell of a lot more ethical than the guy who is supposed to represent us in the White House. I don't agree with the violence- but I understand the anger that produces the violence. I don't think we've seen the last of it either. Get your crash helmets on folks- I think we're in for a wild ride if this guy lasts out his 4 years as president

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Thanksgiving??

by HereIgo in

with thanksgiving around the corner, i thought it would be interesting to hear how you, your family or other jw's you knew handled/celebrated thanksgiving.

it seems to me that most jw's view it as harmless and unofficially celebrate it the day before or the day after the actual holiday.

growing up, my mother would host a dinner the day after thanksgiving and used the excuse " well the traditional food for the dinner is discounted at this time, might as well have a dinner".

flipper

Interesting thread, thanks for posting. Even though my dad was a die hard elder in the JW cult- I remember when I was a little boy our family would go over to my JW mom's non witness parents house for Thanksgiving- usually the day after and have what my parents called a " family meal " - but my grandparents who weren't Witnesses saw it as " Thanksgiving " .

I'm glad that my JW mom influenced my JW elder dad to have that meal with my non-JW grandparents because my grandparents were really great people. They deserved to have family with them at Thanksgiving. At least I was able to kind of have one of the family holidays as a kid.

I knew a lot of JW's that did the same thing having Thanksgiving the day after. The WT Society is so full of crap they just want to prevent families from being close. I feel it's the main reason they forbid all the holidays. They try to replace your real family with people they call " brothers and sisters " . A good number of whom are assholes anyway. Peace out, mr. Flipper