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  A wave of momentum!

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it certainly has to be one of the most exciting times to live in as an awake ex witness!.

  the wave of momentum we are part of as thousands awaken from the hold of the society is a joy to be a part of.

  the internet helps us to see that we are not alone.

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  flipper

  Great points Stuckinarut ! Any of us who have experienced the injustices and shunning from the WT and JW cult have an opportunity ahead of us to expose this criminal organization for what it is - just that a criminal organization. And help open up people's minds as we travel on in life
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  What Music have you Been Listening to this Last Year ? Post You tubes if you Like !

  by flipper in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wktxjuyiat4.

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  flipper

  Listened to this song over and over while picking up firewood yesterday. The beautiful bagpipes at the end of the song always remind me of my mom's Scottish heritage and I start crying my head off missing her when the bagpipes start. But hey, tears of healing right ?

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8p6mzSLbqs
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  California Elder Arrested

  by James Jack in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  crime.

  daniel macias said.. investigators learned that ramos was an elder at a jehovah’s witnesses church in the 4000 block of west mckinley avenue.

  there, he met a teen girl and her family three years ago.. .

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  flipper

  Here we go again. Another WT " spirit appointed " elder molesting a minor once more. Does it ever stop ? No . At least the police received an anonymous tip so they could arrest this abuser. Now we'll watch the scene unfold in the courtroom as a high number of JW's show up claiming " I don't know HOW brother so and so could be guilty of this ! He's an elder !" - while stupidly standing up for his character. Since he's out on bail- let's hope he doesn't skip town. WT Society needs to be brought down big time
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  Great music video from Apostate chick

  by ToesUp in

  1. social
  2. humour

  https://youtu.be/cafygzb1geo.

  maybe she can help out watchtower with their monthly videos.. great job.

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  flipper

  This is a fantastic you tube ! Brilliant indeed ! Well done J-dub chains ! The rhyming and timing was perfect. Thanks for posting it Toesup
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  Pioneer Elder Still in Jail (follow up report)

  by James Jack in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  confirmed by a family friend and elder who lives in the area!

  he was a pioneer elder in a port st lucie (river view congregation) fl, convention and assembly speaker, a"shining star" of the circuit and had served at bethel for several years.

  was sexually abusing his step daughter from age 8 to 12. his wife has divorced him and moved back to tennessee.

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  flipper

  Want to bump this up for any lurking JW's who might read this. This truly shows that ' holy spirit ' has nothing to do with these ' elders ' who continue to remain as elders within the JW organization. There are hundreds more like these guys within the JW organization lurking in the weeds
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  Why is there such a 'high turnover' within the Jehovahs Witnesses?

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i happened to come across a time article in 2008. it was basically talking about the high turnover in american faiths.

  it mentioned the jdubs and highlighted the following point.. an even more extreme example of what might be called "masked churn" is the relatively tiny jehovah's witnesses, with a turnover rate of about two-thirds.

  that means that two-thirds of the people who told pew they were raised jehovah's witnesses no longer are — yet the group attracts roughly the same number of converts.

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  flipper

  I think one of the many reasons there is a high turnover rate is that the WT Society has to keep re-creating " new light " or indoctrination processes to keep the " old light " from burning out. The longer a JW remains a JW then some of them stay long enough to see the failed " end times " predictions of 1975 and bail out. But then you get new converts who come into the JW cult after the year 2000 who don't know about the WT's failed predictions. And they remain gullible- unless they research the Internet. But some of them won't because they are told not to look at any negative information related to the WT Society. So they remain in the cult with blinders on like a horse. I hope many more will escape in time
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  How Would You Console A Witness Who Has Lost A Loved One?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  let’s say that you haven’t been around a kingdom hall in years and everyone knows you are not a “true believer “ anymore.

  yet a tragedy strikes and you want to give a real heartfelt expression of your feelings— what would you say?

  would you acknowledge the resurrection hope that the witnesses entertain or say something very different?.

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  flipper

  I've experienced this and what I say to JW former friends or JW relatives is that " I'm deeply sorry for your loss and please know that I'm always here if you ever need to talk. " If it's a JW relative I'll say, " I'm so sorry for your loss, I'm always here if you want to talk or come to visit, my door is always open to you. "

  I NEVER bring up the " resurrection " hope - because the last thing a JW needs is someone feeding them the delusion that their dead loved one is going to come back again. To do that would be reinforcing their fake, pretend beliefs . Much more honest and helpful to just tell them you are deeply sorry, that you are here to support them in any way and you are there if they ever need or want to talk. It's how I see this anyway- because you are offering viable help that you can deliver on- instead of a " pie in the sky " " airie fairie " promise that you cannot deliver on. These JW's get enough fake promises not delivered by the WT Society as it is- why add to those fake promises ? Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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  Leah Remini (Scientology expose' series) "May turn attention to Jehovah's Witnesses next"

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4935392/leah-remini-turn-attention-jehovah-s-witnesses.html.

  remini said that she was warned of the jehovah’s witnesses that 'these f----rs are super powerful,' but is not one to cower in fear.. 'are you ready for my response?

  'i don’t give a s--- about powerful.

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  " Please dear Jehovah, in the name of Leah Remini & Mike Rinder please make this happen. Amen " Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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  Pioneer Elder Still in Jail (follow up report)

  by James Jack in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  confirmed by a family friend and elder who lives in the area!

  he was a pioneer elder in a port st lucie (river view congregation) fl, convention and assembly speaker, a"shining star" of the circuit and had served at bethel for several years.

  was sexually abusing his step daughter from age 8 to 12. his wife has divorced him and moved back to tennessee.

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  flipper

  Guys like these need to be locked up for life and the key thrown away, too much of a danger in re-offending and molesting even more children. To have NO conscience whatsoever and keep giving talks at conventions faking his elder role- is disgusting. If I had a dollar for how many of these dimwits I've seen serving as elders who had no right to serve over the years I was in the JW cult- I'd be a millionaire by now. There's more of these guys than people know- and the scary thing there's probably hundreds of these predators still serving worldwide if the truth came out. I researched my hometown on the Megan's Law website to see if I noticed any JW's I used to know when I lived there and I saw 12 JW's I used to know out of the 1,000 registered sex offenders names on that list. One reason to keep making it public how criminal the WT Society policy is regarding child abuse
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  For ELDERS: Kingdom Ministry School for the 2018 Service Year (Picture)

  by pixel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know wifibandit will post the pdf soon, this is just a snack for you guys and girls.... .

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  flipper

  Good god almighty. Just got done reading the " instructions " ( if you can call them that ) to elders regarding child abuse in congregations. There are so many holes in these instructions like holes in a sinking ship , my god.

  Paragraph 10 , " As it says, " we're talking about an adult guilty of molesting a child, or an adult who has sexual contact with a child but did not PARTICIPATE VOLUNTARILY IN THE ACT. " WTF ? Once again like always - the WT Society leaves a door open to punishing children indicating that CHILDREN may at times participate VOLUNTARILY in a sexual act with adults. That's bullshit. A minor child 17 years old or younger is usually always intimidated by an adult ; especially if the adult threatens a child or the child's family with harm if the child refuses to have sex with the adult molester. Once again, like always in the past : WT Society is showing it's idiocy and insensitivity to the real issues of child abuse - ABUSE OF POWER - by treating it as a " sexual " sin like fornication or adultery in claiming children might be guilty at times. This shit makes me shiver in disgust at WT leaders who make this crap up.

  Also they hit on this point AGAIN ! Paragraph 14 - " Although victims of sexual abuse are not prosecuted, if the body of elders considers that the congregation should take action in the case of a MATURE CHILD who VOLUNTARILY PARTICIPATED in a wrongful act, two of it's members should call the department of service Before proceeding. " Unbelievable. Here's a concept- just make it mandatory to report any child abuse to the fucking police authorities without the whole " report to the Service Department " BS - or " report to WT legal " BS .

  And then THIS little nugget in Questions for paragraph 17 : " The Service Department will ask the elders to inform the family heads with younger children in the congregation of the need to monitor their relationship with that person. This measure will be taken ONLY WHEN THE SERVICE DEPARTMENT SO REQUIRES . Here we go again, ultimate control by the WT Society. So an elder has his hands tied by ' mother ' as to being able to warn or inform other parents of the dangers of child molesters in the congregation - not until ' mother ' says it's O.K. to do so. By that time the child molester may have raped 7 to 10 more children !

  Truth of the matter is WT Society does NOT have the skills necessary to protect their children from child molesters, nor the skills needed to address these crimes properly. They need to turn it over to police authorities first instead of putting these abuse victims and their families through a slow as molasses investigation process performed by the WT Society in a bumbling Inspector Clouseau manner . O.K. I'm done. I'm gonna pop a blood vessel if I continue here.