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  2.16.2017 NJ Star-Ledger Ad: "Were you sexually abused by the Jehovahs Witnesses?"

  by breakfast of champions in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  my wife found this 1/4 page ad on page 2 of yesterday's nj star-ledger, probably the biggest newspaper in nj.

  pretty telling.. .

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  flipper

  Broken record?

  Hey - whatever it takes to get the message out about this cult's despicable policies.

  Mrs. Flipper
  
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  TV commercial seen in the United States, from a Law firm "Asking if you were ever sexually abused by JEHOVAHS WITNESSES, please call".

  by Dunedain in

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  2. scandals

  ok, so i don't know if this is "old news", and if this has been seen, and or mentioned already.

  if it was, i do apologize, but i feel i have to mention what has been seen on tv, within the past 24 hours.. first off, i would like to say that i did not personally see this commercial.

  however, it was seen by someone that i can verify 100% is telling the truth, as it was my own father who saw it.

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  LITS - your justice streak can really piss people off , as we've seen on some of these threads. Well, too bad.

  I for one really appreciate your willingness to stand up to the bullies - for years. I have absolutely no doubts that your efforts in your city have prevented further child abuse just by scaring the hell out of those creepy elders and their superiors too.

  The ads put out by these lawyers will do the same thing by putting a spotlight on the JW coverup of child abuse.

  The elders and other JW enablers may not give a rat's ass about the safety of children but they sure don't want to get sued. They are probably already busy trying to figure out how to put the blame on their fellow elders.

  Mrs. Flipper
  
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  Women's March on Washington

  by azor in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my support is with the marchers in washington and around the country today.

  i was raised through my formative years by my mother and sister while my father was out of the picture.

  they gave me the compassion i have today.

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  FEDUPJW- The protest wasn't JUST about treatment of women. It was about equal rights for minorities, women, fair and just treatment for all citizens of the United States including middle and lower class health care which has both men and women equally up in arms right now. I felt the protest was a good thing. Apparently millions of people worldwide felt the same
  
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  Women's March on Washington

  by azor in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my support is with the marchers in washington and around the country today.

  i was raised through my formative years by my mother and sister while my father was out of the picture.

  they gave me the compassion i have today.

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  AZOR- I agree with your opening thread. I understand and get why not only women, but men as well were demonstrating . It's to give a STRONG warning to the Trump administration that many people in America and the free world ACROSS the world are NOT going to allow him to exploit the office of president to control, slash freedoms of minorities, women, lower and middle class Americans by stealing their health care without replacing it as well. And then you throw in the Russian hacking of the election- and THIS is the result- millions of people demonstrating in the streets in rebellion against what they see as prejudiced and unjust leadership.

  My mom who just died was the main person in my life who taught me respect, dignity, diplomacy, kindness, and justice towards all people. I learned that from a WOMAN a FEMALE. My dad not so much. His main concern was being an elder in the JW organization.

  Donald Trump is the epitome of what a dictator is- arrogant, controlling, self absorbed, he's more concerned about his outward appearance or how many tweets he gets- as opposed to middle and lower class Americans getting fair and just treatment. If he could abolish " freedom of press " or " freedom of speech " from the constitution- he would do it.

  I really fear for this country and where it's headed as this ignorant man takes office. Like Sting said in a song " History will Teach us Nothing " - I fear that statement is so true for many people in this country. But at least over a million people worldwide stood up for values and justice yesterday and will hopefully continue as time goes on. We can only hope it has some effect on the current U.S. administration
  
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  So, the Womens March ... What Is It For?

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  it seems like mobilizing after the election, which seems pointless.

  i keep hearing demands for equal rights but don't understand what rights they are missing exactly.. normally a march is to show the support (and potential votes) for a cause, but ... votes for what?

  ... and the election happened already.. is anyone else confused?

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  I believe these demonstrations were meant for the Trump administration in a manner kind of like what happens in wars or battles- it was a warning shot fired across and over the Trump administration's bow of their governmental ship.

  Not only females attended these huge demonstrations worldwide ( many major cities and even Alaska and Antarctica ) but many males as well who stood up demonstrating for equal and fair rights not just for women's issues, but minorities, lower and middle class people, and many were being VERY vocal that they aren't going to take or accept anything less than equal and fair treatment.

  I get that completely- I don't see how that's hard to understand. Following all of the racist, sexist, and completely insane remarks Trump stood by while he ran for president- and is STILL stating - the mainstream American public are in fear. And having come from a mind control cult - most of us know how FEAR and the proverbial rattling of the saber from a power monger like Trump can affect people. I mean look at his speech to the CIA for Christ's sakes - the guy was blathering on about the media and how many people were at his inauguration.

  It does not bode well for the United States of America when we have in power at the most important position in the country - a sociopathic, self absorbed narcissist who is more concerned about how many tweet followers he has than how fairly the American people are treated. The guy acts like a 12 year old brat or frat boy who seems like somebody just stole his lunch money at school or something. I've never seen such immaturity at such a highly visible level in a government " leader " . So scared. yeah- I'm scared as hell ! Not only for me but the rest of the free world.

  The way this guy lashes out at the media ? You'd think he's already got scripted and written down some amendments to replace the one in the constitution about " freedom of press " . Come on folks- does history teach us nothing ? Remember about 80 years ago a weird little guy with a creepy moustache named Hitler came onto the world scene ? Wake up and smell the coffee is my take on this.

  And by the way - the comparison to L. Ron Hubbard is a pretty close analogy for Trump. He wants to be seen as a dictator- plain and simple. His way - or the highway. This is like watching the " emperor who has no clothes " - I swear
  
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  Judge sanctions WTS - $4k per day penalty for not producing sex abuse documents

  by Simon in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  judge sanctions jehovah's witnesses.

  imposes $4000-a-day penalty for not producing documents in sex-abuse case.

  by dorian hargrove, june 24, 2016. a san diego superior court judge has ordered the church of jehovah's witnesses, also known as the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, to pay $4000 a day for every day that it fails to produce documents requested in a civil lawsuit brought by former parishioner, osbaldo padron, who claims a church elder sexually abused him when he was seven years old.. in a june 23 ruling, expected to be made final today, judge richard strauss admonished the church for willfully ignoring a court order to produce all documents associated with a 1997 body of elders letter that church leaders sent to parishes around the world in a quest to learn about sexual abuse of children by church leaders.. over the course of the past year, the watchtower society and its lawyers have fought hard to keep the letter confidential, claiming that turning over the documents would infringe on the privacy of those mentioned in the letter that were not associated with the case.. in march 2015, the church turned over a heavily redacted version of the letter.

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  LITS is far from nuts. Maybe her courage makes people nervous.

  That's ok. She gets stuff done.

  Mrs. Flipper
  
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  2.16.2017 NJ Star-Ledger Ad: "Were you sexually abused by the Jehovahs Witnesses?"

  by breakfast of champions in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  my wife found this 1/4 page ad on page 2 of yesterday's nj star-ledger, probably the biggest newspaper in nj.

  pretty telling.. .

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  Richard, it is obvious that you really want to influence (more so than share) opinions here.

  So far, not working well. Maybe time to take a class like propaganda manufacture 101.

  Mrs. Flipper
  
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  Let's Be Honest - You or One of Your Ancestors Was an Idiot

  by Simon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  why were we ever a jw?

  were we mad?

  we must have been .... well, my excuse is that i knew nothing else.

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  Good point Scully - the WT Society preys on people with vulnerabilities and hardships going on in their lives. My parents in the early 1950's were parents to 3 young children close in age ( I didn't come along till almost 1960 ) and they felt they needed some kind of what they thought was " stability " in their life- I guess for the young family. But what they got was a deceptive, lying mind control cult which dominated them for the next 60 years telling them how to live !

  It's like I wrote in a song I made last year " how can we blame ourselves when you know they told us lies, when people you're supposed to trust bring this big surprise " . As time has gone by I look at my parents this way- they, like other JW's REALLY didn't know what they are getting into initially because it's not until later once a person is in too deep that the deceptions and lies and strict policies dominate a person to the point where they can't breathe an ounce of freedom. WT promises " eternal life " ( lies ) , "never getting sick again " ( more lies ) , and " never growing old and dying " ( more lies ) and " Armageddon ( another lie ) - it goes on and on - yet due to the cult mind control and fear and manipulation these JW's feel they have nowhere else to go- when in reality they really DO have somewhere else to go - they are just too scared to leave the organization because it's all they have known.

  It's like a female who has been in an abusive relationship with a husband who beats her. WT beats up it's members mentally but they won't leave because it's a co-dependent relationship like a woman who refuses to leave physical abuse from a bad relationship. It's a negative thing in her and JW's life- but it's all they've known - so they become familiar or comforted even in a negative situation- strange but true
  
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  Is it just me ? 2 threads debating page after page with one individual ?

  by smiddy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  is it just me who doesnt see the point of this ?

  from time to time we see some individual who takes up page after page arguing his or her point of view and it usually ends up with only 2 or 3 individuals who keep the talkfest going with a particular individual and nobodys getting anything out of it .. why bother ?

  why get sucked in to such a pointless dialogue ?

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  SMIDDY- Like yourself I generally don't get too involved in the back and forth on a lurker arguing points endlessly- that being said like Outlaw stated it can serve a purpose of showing how crazy the JW views really are.

  I look at this board as a television with hundreds of " channels " or threads posted- if I don't like a thread or am not interested in one thread I click the changer to another thread until I find something I'm interested in. Instead of " channel " surfing I go " thread " surfing. It works for me anyway. That's the great thing about Simon's board here- hundreds of topics to look at or experience. A little bit of everything for different tastes and interests. So don't sweat it- just find something you are interested in and pursue that type of thread. Just a suggestion. Works for me anyway
  
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  The Trump Era commences

  by ZAPPA-ESQUE in

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  Protests in the streets ! Of course there are protests in the streets. People are scared shitless