Walking right up to them, with a big smile and a hearty greeting when they are trying to shun you.
I love that one, too! Not complying with their rules just irks them to no end.
having already started a thread about jw actions that irritated us the issue has to be completed by discussing what we did or can do to irritate them.
i would say wearing a cross would vex or even frighten them since they think it's a satanic symbol.
or drawing a cross on a kh with chalk and writing above it : jesus christ lord of the church.
Walking right up to them, with a big smile and a hearty greeting when they are trying to shun you.
I love that one, too! Not complying with their rules just irks them to no end.
i have been battling an incurable illness and will be able to post less and less.
i will post my email, and any help you cna asend my way will be appreciated.
there is treatment but no cure and no cancer yet.
Know you are loved, friend.
i don't know whether to laugh or cry.. a friend lent me coc yesterday and i stayed up most of the night reading it.
it took me 13 hours and i skipped the meeting today to keep reading, i couldn't bear to put it down.. i am shocked but not surprised at how closely ray's thinking mirrors my own in some ways.
the part that hit me hardest was.... "conviction, it has no meaning or validity unless it is individual, personal.
Orgull, your journey has entered a new phase. You said you feel like you've just died, but also been reborn. That's a good way to put it, but you will have to deal with both those processes at the same time. Glad you're here sharing your transformational process.
having already started a thread about jw actions that irritated us the issue has to be completed by discussing what we did or can do to irritate them.
i would say wearing a cross would vex or even frighten them since they think it's a satanic symbol.
or drawing a cross on a kh with chalk and writing above it : jesus christ lord of the church.
Not using the name Jehovah seems to irritate them. In a conversation with my JW sister, I used the word "God" several times. She interrupted me and irritatingly said, "He DOES have a name, you know."
do you by any chance have any famous relatives?
i personally don't have any, not living ones anyway.
I do have a very famous relative (now deceased), but if I said who, I would be identified immediately by any lurkers from Jdubdumb that know me.
Maybe it's secret messages to the JIOR....(just kidding)
just posted this on another thread, but thought i'd give it it's own..... ---------------------------------------------------------------------.
letter to all congregations of jehovah's witnesses worldwide.. dear brothers,.
for many years now some among us have apparently felt the spiritual food provided by the faithful and discreet slave is not good enough.
Confession
This was so "right on"! (Loved your writing.)
with the new kool-aid edition of the wt coming out in a few months, i think we are going to see some real changes in the wts...(duh, ya' think?).
i think they may use apostasy as scriptural grounds for divorce.
i think there are scriptures that could be twisted to support this.
Reading some of the other posts on how elders interfere with marriages and custody issues, I got to thinking that if they can put a wedge between parents and their children, surely it would be no stretch to do it when your mate turns apostate.
I can just see them using the scripture about what sharing does light have with darkness, etc. An unbelieving mate is one thing, but a believing mate that turns apostate may be considered a different thing. This might put the brakes on some leaving the org.
I, for one, can see them doing this.
with the new kool-aid edition of the wt coming out in a few months, i think we are going to see some real changes in the wts...(duh, ya' think?).
i think they may use apostasy as scriptural grounds for divorce.
i think there are scriptures that could be twisted to support this.
With the new Kool-Aid edition of the WT coming out in a few months, I think we are going to see some REAL changes in the WTS...(duh, ya' think?)
I think they may use apostasy as scriptural grounds for divorce. I think there are scriptures that could be twisted to support this. What do you think?
for having too much contact with her df'd son!.
she's a loyal, long time witness in her seventies, with a "non-believing" husband.
she harms nobody with her bevavior.
it just goes to show how inconsistent one body of elders can be from one congregation to the next
This is true. I've read many things on this forum that seem to back up this statement. My mother was not "in your face" with her association with my brothers. She didn't make a big issue out of it to her witness friends. She simply did what she felt in her heart Jehovah allowed. She was a very well-respected loving sister and I'm sure she and my dad contributed lots of $$ to them. But she was an extremely intelligent lady and could hold her own with any of them as far as scripture goes and exuded confidence and strength of character.
Like I mentioned, she started off shunning my brothers after they were disfellowshipped. I can't remember the time frame involved, but after some time had passed, she decided she was the one sinning by shunning. It wasn't accomplishing anything plus it wasn't the truly Christian thing to do to her way of looking at it. It was hurting her very soul to do this to the sons she had lovingly raised and nurtured.
The borg is a SICK organization of cultic mentality. My mother simply discarded this particular doctrine. She had been around long enough to see that they had made many mistakes in the past, and to her way of looking at it, this was just another one.
I miss her very, very much.