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  looking for good definition of "city sevant or city overseer"

  by Shawn10538 in

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  this was always a mystery to me.

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  A city overseer position is created by the Society (with input from the CO and local elders) when more than one congregation is in the city, even if there are only 2 congregations (as is the case in the town I live in). . The city overseer serves as a liason between the Society and the local congregations in matters involving all of the congregaitons. The city overseer's major responsibility is if there is a convention in their town and also serves as a "contact" for the media. A town north of me has 5 congregations. Until recently the district convention was held there and he was directly involved in those arrangements. A city overseer helps to coordinate territory borders between congregations within the city. If someone wants to know which congregation's territory they live in, they can call this brother. If there are foreign language groups/congregations in the city, they also are included in his area.

  However, a city overseer has NO authority in any individual congregation in the city other than the one he serves in. Usually this brother is PO of the congregation he serves in and has many years, usually decades of experience. Usually this brother is a good communicator and a good consensus maker.

  In my town, the city overseer position is a title only. Last thing this brother did was receive communication from the Society regarding the floods in this area about 15 years ago. He is not a good consensus maker...he ramrods his opinion down the throats of the elders in his and the others congregation.

  Funny, there is not that much in print about this position. My info is insider info.

  SnakesInTheTower (of the "hope this helps" Sheep Class)
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  Tomorrow

  by JH in

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  tomorrow is september 1st, the new theocratic year.. what are your plans?.

  will you pioneer this year, or do more, because you need to save your as*...... .

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  JH:

  Tomorrow is September 1st, the new theocratic year.

  UNBELIEVABLE! I completely forgot that connection. Can you imagine.....me...not that long ago a congregation secretary...FORGETTING THAT?...

  Yep, instead of sitting here enjoying an "interchange of encouragement" with my fellow apostates, I would be busily counting all of the hours of field misery and getting year end reports done and printing up new labels for the publisher cards! At least that was what I was doing this time last year.

  My goals for the new service year...become irregular (I can accomplish that tomorrow if I "forget" to report service time...but will probably go ahead and report phantom time if they call)

  ENJOY MY LIFE OUTSIDE THE BORG.

  Meet a nice girl and start dating...a nice non-JW or ex-JW girl...enjoying dating without the rules and regulations of the Borg.

  Get D/F for dating inappropriately outside the Borg (LMAO now).

  SnakesInTheTower (of the "appreciating my newfound freedom from secretary duties" Sheep Class)
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  To continue fading or stop the madness!!!

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  i have this concern about fading.

  my fade is calculated and very successful as far as .

  avoiding a judicial committee for apostacy.

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  OTWO...

  My fade is calculated and very successful as far as avoiding a judicial committee for apostacy

  yep, that is the way my fade is calculated. I have not been to a meeting since the DC about 3 weeks ago. I have gone a month before but then end up back at a Sunday meeting.

  This time though, NO phone calls from any elder..... I wonder if I dont turn in a service report for August if I will get a call? (If I do, I will give them my phantom report). Such love.

  Thankfully I did NOT get married...which I would have been by now if she had not broken it off (for reasons really known to her I think), so I don't have that to worry about. I only have my mom and a couple of cousins IN...it is for my mom and close friends that I maintain the fade, much to the dismay of some posters here who are very JW-judgmental in their opinions of my fading. Otherwise .... I would "stop the madness!"

  Continued success in your fade. I appreciate your advice and experiences here on the board. PM me anytime.

  Snakes (...)
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  Easy Field Service time, oh yeah baby!

  by monophonic in

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  i hope these images work below.. i was at the laundermat, watching this lady do her "street witnessing".

  these photos were actually the most attentive she was b/c she was wondering what the hell i was doing taking photos of her.. for the hour i watched her, she talked to nobody.

  when i walked by earlier i made eye contact and smiled and she avoided my eyes.

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  I remember doing street work...it was an easy 2 hours. Usually 4 of us worked together in pairs...and we talked to each other. Then the elders got wise and told us to split up and work alone...well hell, that was no fun...we might actually have to talk to someone. Horror of horrors....here's a couple more time waster stories....

  When I developed the gas station/laundromat route for our congregation years ago, we had a folder and kept careful track of what was placed. The folder went from pioneer to pioneer...but during big auxiliary pioneer months everyone wanted the EASY TIME...and the establishment owners booted us out because there would be 2 -4 car groups coming in during the 2 hours from 7-9am..... it took me weeks to get us pioneers back into the places..just in time for the next big push. The elders told us this was not our exclusive territory. We told them anyone could work with us anytime.....WITH us...... We needed that territory to keep from getting burnt out. We actually talked to people....

  I left that congo and the last congo I was in before starting my fade....we had 2 routes...North and South....North...was a long rural version....we did laundromats, including in rural apartment complexes....hardly talked to anyone. I usually drove and made up the "whose turn is it next" rules...which made sure I got out at the places guaranteed to be devoid of people...and I always placed one magazine...and grabbed 4 off the shelf for the recycle bin.

  What a waste of time and gas. Gas is averaging about the same as last year in this area....I can't believe I wasted all that gas.....all that money on dry cleaner bills, wear and tear on the car....for no money.... Compare that to what I do for work...I still spend money on gas..I still have wear and tear on the car....BUT no dry cleaners ...I wear t-shirt and blue jeans........and LOTS AND LOTS OF FILTHY MONEY BEING MADE

  SnakesInTheTower (of the "not wasting time in FS anymore, BABY!" Sheep Class)
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  Online Dating

  by FreeGirl2006 in

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  *sigh* i was seeing someone for several months, but it is not working out.

  so i went back to my only way of meeting men thus far--online dating sites.

  i have had some really cool experiences, but i think i am getting burnt out....if i read one more email from a guy that reads "u r booteful and i wud luv to chat with u and then maybe we go out and eat" (or my personal favorite today--"you are eye-popping"--i am busty and the current picture reveals that little fact) i think i will puke!

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  and now that I moved my vent to another thread, and RF replied to it here, maybe some are scratching their head and going "huh?" Nah, you did not overlook something, I moved it on you. ....go read the thread.... I could use the help

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  Online Dating

  by FreeGirl2006 in

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  *sigh* i was seeing someone for several months, but it is not working out.

  so i went back to my only way of meeting men thus far--online dating sites.

  i have had some really cool experiences, but i think i am getting burnt out....if i read one more email from a guy that reads "u r booteful and i wud luv to chat with u and then maybe we go out and eat" (or my personal favorite today--"you are eye-popping"--i am busty and the current picture reveals that little fact) i think i will puke!

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  sweetstuff...

  found no more success that way then online.

  I havent tried any of the online sites at this point...such a no no for the JWs.... but of course now that I am a fader I really dont care about their rules and regs.

  (I have moved the rest of what I had written to a new topic.. http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/9/141197/1.ashx I am hijacking the thread otherwise )

  SnakesInTheTower (of the "decent human being" Sheep Class)
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  Online Dating

  by FreeGirl2006 in

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  *sigh* i was seeing someone for several months, but it is not working out.

  so i went back to my only way of meeting men thus far--online dating sites.

  i have had some really cool experiences, but i think i am getting burnt out....if i read one more email from a guy that reads "u r booteful and i wud luv to chat with u and then maybe we go out and eat" (or my personal favorite today--"you are eye-popping"--i am busty and the current picture reveals that little fact) i think i will puke!

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  bigd:

  i'm not hot stuff, but, always dated beautiful women. my friends would ask how i did it. i'd look at them, and say, well, talk to them like a human, instead of a sex toy.

  my little brother is one of these....he is short, has stringy hair, buck (bad) teeth (but he cleans up nice w/ a haircut)....and every single one of his girlfriends (including his current GF as well as his ex-wife) were absolutely beautiful. You would never know it looking at him but he is a great conversationalist. Looks dumb, smart as a whip... more street smart than book smart. He is struggling in college but working his ass off. (he has learning disabilities I think). His current GF...tall blonde just got her Master's in ...something related to social work...she comes from a wealthy family that likes my blue collar brother.... I am proud of him...hope they get married one day.

  I always ask him how he does it and he gives me that little sh*t eating grin and shrugs his shoulders.

  SnakesInTheTower (of the "snake avatar probably not helping my chances" Sheep Class)
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  Fading? What's up?

  by arker in

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  i was a jw, finally saw my chance and wrote a letter to the elders saying how bad i am and how i don't want to meet to discuss it and to df me if you want.

  that was the end of it for me.

  my question is if you know you are "fading" you are already gone so why not make the leap?

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  manhas...

  if you are childless go at it! stay in as long as you like. worship the spagetti monster if you like! but if you have children, and dont even believe in that JW garbage, exposing them to that level of danger for a single day is inexcuseable.

  i dont have children but if i did have children I sure as hell would not just "yank" them out of the religion because, as others here have already stated, there is no guarantee that the kids would be on the outside of the cult.... but there IS a guarantee that I would be ..and maybe without them....

  so, before you continue with your very JW-like judgemental rhetoric, maybe you should think, think again, and think a third time...you can give the advise.....no problem...but without the judgmental attitude that you obviously have. If your advice worked in your situation and you got the kids out...FUC#ING YAAY FOR YOU!

  Maybe the rest of those here trying to fade want their kids around and will have to fake worshipping the "spaghetti monster" as you say...to guarantee a spot in their lives where maybe, just maybe, those fading JW parents will have the opportunity to influence their kids to think for themselves so when the time comes the kids can walk away from the cult on their own...knowing their fading parent was there for them all along...sacrificing personal beliefs for them.....

  sometimes we have to throw ourselves under the WT Bus for those we love...... doesnt always make sense, but then neither does the cult. Parents do a lot of things that dont make sense to anyone that is not a parent.... parents usually recognize that kind of love and sacrifice...and appreciate it.

  SnakesInTheTower (of the "climbing down off the soap box now" Sheep Class)
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  Penny pinching hints and tips

  by Junction-Guy in

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  ok, the lemonade thread has prompted me to ask does anyone else have any clever and legal ways to pinch pennies, like the guy did with the lemonade?.

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  any other things you have seen?

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  scully.... thanks for those tips. I will try to find that oven thermometer.

  when you are adding the liquid ingredients to your dry ingredients, make sure that you don't overmix, as this can cause dryness. I prefer to hand mix these kinds of batters rather than using the electric mixer, because you want to get the dry ingredients just moist, but not wet.

  I think this is my problem. When I make cheesecake from scratch, mixing it for a long time, making sure it is really well blended, works great....not so great for banana bread....I did use an electric mixer....next batch of overly ripe bananas I will try your suggestion. Oh, the recipe called for 1 hour or until done. After 42 minutes it was done....that oven must really be miscalibrated.

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  are some warning labels really necessary?

  by bigdreaux in

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  what are some of the stupidest warning labels you've seen?.

  i just bought some sleep aid pills, and get this, they may cause drowsiness..

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  bigd:

  or the one that says if you have an erection lasting 4 hours, go to the hospital..........

  priapism...that would be bad....

  your warning reminded me once about a year or so ago when I gave a talk in a nearby KH (yes your warning triggered a JW related memory, imagine that)

  During the WT study, (I dont remember the study article for context), they were discussing warnings on commercials for medicines on TV. One brother goes on an on about this warning about the 4 hour erections and then says..."4 hours...that's like a part time job!"

  That WT conductor (in his 40s) had a look like a deer in the headlights . finally I think someone took the microphone away and they "moved on".

  SnakesInTheTower (of the "glad I dont bother with the WT anymore" Sheep Class)