Posts by humbled

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In one sentence, can you pinpoint a single event that woke you up?

by Brian J in

my turning point: serving on a child abuse judicial case.

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humbled

The response of local brothers, the CO, and ultimately Bethel to me stating that two Hebrew words were not interchangeable: the word for “sacrifice” and the word for “burnt offering”.

Local brothers withdrew their warmth, the CO was harsh and gave his closing talk on women who were not content with their place in the Jehovah’s arrangement , the PO and a brother l had greatly respected called me in for special interviews while Bethel considered the matter.

Bethel agreed with every point of my research and faulted me for doing it. Made it clear to the brothers to be certain I wasn’t stirring trouble or reading apostate literature.

Al I had done was read and think.

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Internet Search Engines And Some Of The First Things I Typed

by Brokeback Watchtower in

it was back in mid nineties 93,94 or 95 before it became what it is today.

anyway they had a bunch of search engines and the first thing i typed in it was jehovah witness, then jesus christ, next came lsd, magic mushrooms, nude pictures.

i think in that relative order.. i remember reading a different story about jws in germany during the nazi era, not anything like the 74 yearbook's depiction.

humbled

Realizing the WBTS was wrong in even one thing was a mighty task. Only the Bible itself was the key that could turn the lock for me.

I was terrified to break any rules during that time. Yet I didn’t go to meetings because there was too much trauma from my experience with the brothers and the circuit overseer when I voiced an objection to a subject in the literature.

I never looked at apostate websites. Yet Ray Franz’s name came to my attention somehow. When I understood that he had written a book- Crisis of Conscience. I would only allow myself to read it’s reviews in Amazon .There were hundreds of them.

Looking back now, I know l was breaking with the Organization without the internet—But the internet was critical for my leaving with my sanity.

I found this site obviously.

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Just thought I'd share. New up coming apostate

by joe134cd in

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just listened to this delightful young irish lass and just thought i'd share.

a pleasure to listen to her.

well spoken and presents a good argument.. https://youtu.be/qitwc2qumgs.

humbled

She nailed it.

I will look up her other presentations.

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Animals Have Soul

by glenster in

awwrr see the video at the next link:https://www.facebook.com/animalshavesoul/videos/158795278097284/.

humbled

glenster, at the last l cried it was so beautiful. Thanks

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So, I went to the memorial service of a man I have known since childhood...

by Captain Schmideo2 in

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i have been on a fade for years, so this is the first time i have been in a kh for months.the deceased was barely 52 when he died.

from cancer.

one year younger than me.the memorial was the standard "read the obituary column word for word, then do the jw commercial for 25 minutes" plus a new twist (to me), they played a video called "around the corner" https://youtu.be/tfccoyp0vsu.

humbled

The Org is a religious automat. And they are burying more and more robots.

Which makes it all the sadder when you remember people who suffer in the religion because they are really great characters, real humans who are being broken.

I am glad that you remember your friend as a real person, Capt. Schmideo.

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More News about child sexual abuse on Dutch National Television

by jochie in

more dutch news (english subs)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50sgu0jmzq8&list=pljylxw3p9cbfy6ok1om84bef4irkutnog&index=2.

humbled

They packed a lot into 6 minutes.

Glad to see that much time broadcasting this cult’s unloving- not to say criminal -attitudes towards children. Thanks for the information.

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Born again or born from above

by Steel in

last year i was at the memorial and the speaker was saying something about how the phrase born again was actually a mistake and it should say born from above.

jesus was actually referring to those with a heavenly hope.

last night i was flipping the channels and there is a religious program talking about being born again.

humbled

Knee-jerk reaction: THEY are wrong-WE are right. I remember it so well—

They(Christendom) have churches/we (JWs)have Kingdom Halls. They have bishops /we have circuit overseers. Was there any thought or concept outside of Brooklyn Bethel that wasn’t shot down in flames by the Society?

The contestant pick-pick. Straining at gnats only to swallow camels.

They even picked Love to death.

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Friendship

by Freedom rocks in

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how long did you all wait before telling new friends or someone you are or were dating that you used to be a witness?

how did they react?

if you did tell them do they make jokes at you every so often about it 😊 is it best not to tell people?

humbled

With new acquaintances I soon would bring up my recent leaving of the JWs because it loomed large in my life in the beginning. If a person was surprised or curious that l had embraced that particularly odd religion, l filled them in on how their program recruits, seduces, corrupts and sometimes expels members. AND heartily discourage them from ever accepting a free home Bible study!

Ten years on I rarely mention it. Of course, it has had a residual impact on my life —crissakes, every action I took for 22 years was based on bullshit I bought from the WBTS.

But being an XJDub doesn’t cloud my days anymore. And according it doesn’t come up in conversation—unless I think someone is in danger of accepting a free home Bible study!

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The Constant Mindchatter After You Leave

by pale.emperor in

i've been out almost 2 years now and consider myself wide awake to watchtower propaganda and well on my way to recovery from the mental abuse we've all experienced.. one thing that just will not go is that i constantly think of jwism and watchtower and get myself all annoyed at their lies and blatant twisting of facts in their broadcasts and magazines.

it's so bad that it's the first thing i think of when i wake up, then i have these mental arguments in my head proving the jw teachings false and then getting annoyed because no jw will listen even if you tried to tell them.

i call this constant thinking and mental reasoning and mental arguing "mindchatter".

humbled

Pale, I am glad you’re laughing your ass off. It is a rough world. l try to keep that knowledge from the chickens. They never see the end coming.

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The Constant Mindchatter After You Leave

by pale.emperor in

i've been out almost 2 years now and consider myself wide awake to watchtower propaganda and well on my way to recovery from the mental abuse we've all experienced.. one thing that just will not go is that i constantly think of jwism and watchtower and get myself all annoyed at their lies and blatant twisting of facts in their broadcasts and magazines.

it's so bad that it's the first thing i think of when i wake up, then i have these mental arguments in my head proving the jw teachings false and then getting annoyed because no jw will listen even if you tried to tell them.

i call this constant thinking and mental reasoning and mental arguing "mindchatter".

humbled

Freedom Rocks:

l refreshed that post a few hours ago.

It is titled: The Pastor of My Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

Mind you, l don’t say the thread ever arrived at a conclusion. Cofty wrote a summary near the end of the post that indicates a sense of futility that the discussion did not resolve a challenge.

Though cofty responded to comments day after day the marathon post refused to conclude. It simply exhausted.

But what was wrong with that? I was glad l followed that conversation. It burned me. It wore me down. I left some things behind and held tight to other things. And something felt good about the little l held because it really was mine. It has been enough for me to go on with on my own.