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  A pet peeve

  by punkofnice in

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  2. beliefs

  a pet peeve of mine is that there are numerous christian denominations (other faiths with their 'holy' books too), all claim that their interpretation of their 'holy' book is the correct interpretation.

  my conclusion is that either their god is a very poor communicator or simply doesn't exist.. i used to believe all this stuff when i was a jobo and later a church going christian.

  i simply cannot, in all honesty subscribe to it all any more.

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  “Big Religion is just an opportunistic businessman that sets himself up as the middleman, a bottled water seller set up next to the stream taking advantage of thirsty people.”

  that sums it up, sparrowdown

  Punky, nothing l paid for took care of my thirst. I do believe there are waters of life that we find and they are indeed free.

  A long time finding that out.. l am getting stronger though. Not so young but life is getting better.

  l don’t know you of course. But when l see that though you may be sad, angry or bitter (so you have said) you are not mean. That makes me glad for you.
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  Find Family Happiness ... NOT!

  by jp1692 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the other day my wife and i were in sonoma.

  we were just walking around enjoying the pleasant afternoon in the quaint, old downtown area when i saw two jw women standing by their “witnessing cart.” .

  normally, i just ignore them whenever i see jws standing by a cart, but i gotta admit it: this time it really bugged me because of the title on the cart: find family happiness.

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  humbled

  I definitely remember to people when I was in field service were so angry they hardly said a word.

  One was a woman who is doing some yard work. First she was relaxed and pleasant. When she realize who l was her face contorted with some really dark emotion. She stripped off her garden gloves and walked rapidly toward her house.

  Another was likewise in his yard, pleasant, putting up a mailbox by the curb as l walked on an errand. So I began an informal witness after some pleasantries. When he realized who l was his face also clouded. Then he raised his arm, extended his index finger and thundered “GO!GO!!”

  I did.

  Both experiences stuck with me. I couldn’t shake the feeling that they had a story to tell about my religion that would trouble me.It DID trouble me.

  I think that you did the perfect thing, jp1692.
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  In one sentence, can you pinpoint a single event that woke you up?

  by Brian J in

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  2. beliefs

  my turning point: serving on a child abuse judicial case.

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  The response of local brothers, the CO, and ultimately Bethel to me stating that two Hebrew words were not interchangeable: the word for “sacrifice” and the word for “burnt offering”.

  Local brothers withdrew their warmth, the CO was harsh and gave his closing talk on women who were not content with their place in the Jehovah’s arrangement , the PO and a brother l had greatly respected called me in for special interviews while Bethel considered the matter.

  Bethel agreed with every point of my research and faulted me for doing it. Made it clear to the brothers to be certain I wasn’t stirring trouble or reading apostate literature.

  Al I had done was read and think.

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  Internet Search Engines And Some Of The First Things I Typed

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it was back in mid nineties 93,94 or 95 before it became what it is today.

  anyway they had a bunch of search engines and the first thing i typed in it was jehovah witness, then jesus christ, next came lsd, magic mushrooms, nude pictures.

  i think in that relative order.. i remember reading a different story about jws in germany during the nazi era, not anything like the 74 yearbook's depiction.

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  Realizing the WBTS was wrong in even one thing was a mighty task. Only the Bible itself was the key that could turn the lock for me.

  I was terrified to break any rules during that time. Yet I didn’t go to meetings because there was too much trauma from my experience with the brothers and the circuit overseer when I voiced an objection to a subject in the literature.

  I never looked at apostate websites. Yet Ray Franz’s name came to my attention somehow. When I understood that he had written a book- Crisis of Conscience. I would only allow myself to read it’s reviews in Amazon .There were hundreds of them.

  Looking back now, I know l was breaking with the Organization without the internet—But the internet was critical for my leaving with my sanity.

  I found this site obviously.
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  Just thought I'd share. New up coming apostate

  by joe134cd in

  1. forum
  2. links

  just listened to this delightful young irish lass and just thought i'd share.

  a pleasure to listen to her.

  well spoken and presents a good argument.. https://youtu.be/qitwc2qumgs.

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  She nailed it.

  I will look up her other presentations.
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  Animals Have Soul

  by glenster in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  awwrr see the video at the next link:https://www.facebook.com/animalshavesoul/videos/158795278097284/.

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  glenster, at the last l cried it was so beautiful. Thanks
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  So, I went to the memorial service of a man I have known since childhood...

  by Captain Schmideo2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have been on a fade for years, so this is the first time i have been in a kh for months.the deceased was barely 52 when he died.

  from cancer.

  one year younger than me.the memorial was the standard "read the obituary column word for word, then do the jw commercial for 25 minutes" plus a new twist (to me), they played a video called "around the corner" https://youtu.be/tfccoyp0vsu.

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  The Org is a religious automat. And they are burying more and more robots.

  Which makes it all the sadder when you remember people who suffer in the religion because they are really great characters, real humans who are being broken.

  I am glad that you remember your friend as a real person, Capt. Schmideo.
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  More News about child sexual abuse on Dutch National Television

  by jochie in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  more dutch news (english subs)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50sgu0jmzq8&list=pljylxw3p9cbfy6ok1om84bef4irkutnog&index=2.

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  They packed a lot into 6 minutes.

  Glad to see that much time broadcasting this cult’s unloving- not to say criminal -attitudes towards children. Thanks for the information.
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  Born again or born from above

  by Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  last year i was at the memorial and the speaker was saying something about how the phrase born again was actually a mistake and it should say born from above.

  jesus was actually referring to those with a heavenly hope.

  last night i was flipping the channels and there is a religious program talking about being born again.

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  Knee-jerk reaction: THEY are wrong-WE are right. I remember it so well—

  They(Christendom) have churches/we (JWs)have Kingdom Halls. They have bishops /we have circuit overseers. Was there any thought or concept outside of Brooklyn Bethel that wasn’t shot down in flames by the Society?

  The contestant pick-pick. Straining at gnats only to swallow camels.

  They even picked Love to death.
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  Friendship

  by Freedom rocks in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  how long did you all wait before telling new friends or someone you are or were dating that you used to be a witness?

  how did they react?

  if you did tell them do they make jokes at you every so often about it 😊 is it best not to tell people?

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  With new acquaintances I soon would bring up my recent leaving of the JWs because it loomed large in my life in the beginning. If a person was surprised or curious that l had embraced that particularly odd religion, l filled them in on how their program recruits, seduces, corrupts and sometimes expels members. AND heartily discourage them from ever accepting a free home Bible study!

  Ten years on I rarely mention it. Of course, it has had a residual impact on my life —crissakes, every action I took for 22 years was based on bullshit I bought from the WBTS.

  But being an XJDub doesn’t cloud my days anymore. And according it doesn’t come up in conversation—unless I think someone is in danger of accepting a free home Bible study!