Posts by humbled

i'm not suicidal just fed up.. i did think of suicide (briefly), but as there is no painless way and it's not something i would willingly do just in case things would have been better the day after.

i do have a slight grain of hope.. money problems.....problems at home (that's another matter with a son up court for something he is adamant he didn't do.

first offence but the pigs police and the cps have got charges made.

humbled

This time after I couldn't believe there is a God has been in the winter. that's a drag.

But I miss talking to him. I used to organize my anxieties and then--no matter how it came out, I always knew it was "God's will" and it was good enough for me.

It is strange now. I have a sort of paralysis of will that--maybe is because I am 61 and am kicking/have kicked cancer. Maybe is because my life in the rurals with my aged hubby (81 years old) has become more restricted and that is making me feel anxious. Maybe because i listen to the news. maybe because I am on this site too much.

Maybe I have a glandular issue. HAHAHAHA!!!

Sometimes I have trouble taking my depression seriously!

I do love people and I do love the earth and life. It does seem hard right now to feel happy. Maybe we just need more SUNLIGHT!

But...things change. and they should for you, too, Punky. as I hope they do for me.

I'm celtic and dark sometimes-- loosing god has been hard. so I don't have anything to say that others haven't said already. Just hang in there, Punky, I enjoy your company around this place. Or--if you bail out of here for your mental health, let us know you're having a good time out and about in the world.

and, if you find a new remedy for recovering from a life of believing there was a kind listening ear in the blue sky, let me know.

O---and I challenge you to do a graphic novel(remembering a thread you mention a thought on that line)--I am starting one myself..HaHa--Outing myself, here. i have to make myself do something....

there are sources to help you do that, did you know?

oops----I'm rambling

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I made my daughters cry last night.....

by Ugottabefresh in

...when i told them i didn't believe anymore.

they cried like i'd never seen before.

my oldest, 10, pleaded with me that she'd do anything to get me to keep going to meetings ("i'll get a's on my report card!").

humbled

This is scarey for them because they don't know what it means--except there is explicit and implied DEATH for unbelievers !!!!!!

If they know you are safe, and they are safe they will be alright.

If it doesn't offend you, I suggest, for children their age to watch the movie "Dumbo" with them. I myself have had to remind myself that like the little elephant, I have had the power to fly on my own. But I had put my faith in a magic feather for so long that I had/have trouble believing that I have "flown" before and will fly again. I have been "flying" on my own for 61 years and have only just realized it.

When they begin to see how good effort often produces good results---Even among those in the "WORLD" they will see more clearly how this is so--and they may let go of the magic feather too.

My heart goes out to your family. all the best--Maeve

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Supreme Court ruling- refusing to photo gay wedding is discrimination

by SadElder in

according to bloomberg news:.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-04-07/wedding-photographer-rebuffed-by-top-court-on-same-sex-ceremony.

"the u.s. supreme court turned away an appeal from a new mexico wedding photographer found to have violated a state anti-discrimination law when she refused to take pictures of a commitment ceremony for a same-sex couple.. the photographer, elaine huguenin, argued unsuccessfully that she was being unconstitutionally forced to convey a message conflicting with her religious beliefs.

humbled

The photographer was not being forced to publish or to endorse the ceremony, so why feel compromised? The prints if not the negatives become the property of the persons hiring the photographer. Is this a problem? I do not send a message if I am paid to photograph a subject. I am simply recording an event. If I do it for free then I might be seen to be tacitly endorsing it.

That said, I would not want someone taking photos for me of a personal nature who had such a visceral disgust for the subject.

That's how I see it at this moment. It's an interesting problem--a sticky one.

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Is Modern Marriage Unscriptual?

by wearewatchingyouman in

so as far as we know jesus was never married.

i've often wondered why this was.

was it because of a personal belief?

humbled

Marriage seems to be humanity's way of getting people to be responsible for their "significant other" and offspring, WAWYM.

Marriage seems at its core to be a way to sort out"who's watching the kids" as FHN said.

Being a fatherless child was a problem w/o government subsidies.

Being "used" then discarded w/o ceremony has indeed a problem for women.

Jesus seems to be concerned about failing to truly acknowledge responsible family connection:"Corban"let children ignore the welfare of an aged parent. The woman at the well had not made a claim to a husband but was yet "shopping" herself around--no mention of children.

I don't know what to think of marriage these days. I mean that.

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Is Modern Marriage Unscriptual?

by wearewatchingyouman in

so as far as we know jesus was never married.

i've often wondered why this was.

was it because of a personal belief?

humbled

Modern marriage =vows? Not always.

While some churches call the bans of marriage "vows", marriages are mostly civil/social contracts both now and in Jesus' time. Even now the spiritual aspect certainly is part of the desired privilege of marriage that same sex couples seek but the social/civil benefit of having legal recognition if paramount: rights of a spouse confers so many practical protections.

Sex was an implied contract of "one flesh" that has long formed a part of a marriage celebration.(Children do not ask to be born yet--who will care for them? Who will claim them?) But it was not necessary(and I understand still is not) for a rabbi to officiate a wedding for it to be legitimate. A dear friend may bless the union. There were witnesses needed, in the main, to note that the couple did indeed go alone into the marriage chamber--the assumption being that two healthy people so attracted to each other would indeed become "one flesh" if left alone for a little while .

Personally, marriage vows that bind you tighter than the personal commitment to one's spouse are bad. They set you up for hypocritical and disfunctional union in the same way as a JW baptism.

Yep--let your yes mean yes. And for goodness sake--somebody take care---lovingly--of the children.

Edit: Sorry, missed your clarifying post--but I agree that the JWs confine two people as much as join them. Not good. Small wonder--that's what their baptism means. They don't let you work out your own marriage or" your own salvation with fear nd trembling".

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Ladies of a "certain age", advice please.

by quellycatface in

jw
friends

do any of you lovely ladies, or men even, have any natural remedies for night sweats???.

i'm going crazy with them at the moment.. thanks in advance..

humbled

I didn't have night sweat-only day time hotflashes --yes it finally passed.

I have a good friend who has had a protracted change-of-life and she carries a little palm fan where ever she goes. she turns beet red and glows. What she does at night I wonder--the fan?

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James 3:9 - Why can't we all just get along?

by objectivetruth in

once you start viewing "worldly" people as people, just like yourself and everyone else, you can't help but to be filled with love and appreciation.. i read this scripture today and liked it :.

james 3:7-9 - for every kind of beast and bird, of reptile and sea creature, can be tamed and has been tamed by mankind, 8 but no human being can tame the tongue.

it is a restless evil, full of deadly poison.

humbled

Transhuman,

Not only out of print, but didn't a guy named Duncan who wrote it get disfellowshipped in the 1980s?

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Reunion- Stepping Back to a Time Before All the JW Stuff Started

by OnTheWayOut in

although i was exposed to the jw's as a child as the only religion i knew, i was not a jw until i got out of the navy as a conscientious objector.

so i was typical "worldly" when i hit 18 out of high school and i got to see the world before personal catastrophy involving heavy drinking made me turn to the lies that i thought were "the truth.

" so just over 30 years ago, i got the special privilege of serving as the original crew of a brand new ship with a crew slightly over 200. i served 5 years on the "uss worldly" and then left to become a jw.. when you are the first crew, you learn together how to use that ship, how to run things smoothly.

humbled

This thread has made me weep tonight. There were such great people I "left behind for the kingdom's sake". They were there for me when i came to my senses. I just am sorry for the years I spent in such futility. I am sorry for my family.

It is wonderful to read this thread even though it has affected me with tears. It is emotion not simply sadness. The stories of authentic selves budding forth are so moving. Friendships. Lost loves found.

Good thread, good night.

Maeve