OnTheWayOut

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  Had the craziest dream that my wife Disassociated from the JW cult

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  what a crazy dream, it was so cool....she came to me and told me she da'd from the cult.

  i was so happy in my dream.

  when i woke, it took me a few seconds to realize it was only a dream and that she is still brainwashed.

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  OnTheWayOut

  I haven't recalled actually dreaming the same about my wife while I was asleep.

  But I daydream about her waking up to the truth and leaving JW's.
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  Why are things wrong?

  by Tim207 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  during our family worship tonight a thought popped into my head while watching this weeks video on demon influence.

  why is does jehovah not like certain things?

  like why is homosexuality wrong?

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  OnTheWayOut

  Sin was invented by men in charge of the faith of others, invented to make them feel guilty or unworthy. Then the men would offer a way, usually involving something of value, to appease that guilt or make you feel worthy.

  Jehovah's Witnesses are following the Christian doctrines of the Bible and adding their own special spin to make members feel guilty or unworthy, just as others have done as long as organized religion exists.
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  What's The Point?

  by AllTimeJeff in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it's been 12 years since i submitted my resignation letter, and stopped playing by their rules.. in a spurt of manic rationality, i blew up the bridge, sky high.

  knowing that the diseased organ would need to be forever removed, away from anything remotely functional in my mind, body, and soul.

  lest i be tempted to return.... so, i left.

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  OnTheWayOut

  Slightly rounding, I was fully "in" for 20 years and fully "out" for the last 13 years.
  In the last 11 or even 12 years, I could not imagine going back to a similar lifestyle of busy busy busy for some bullshit. I have a wife, a mother, and an entire in-law family still in that religion. So I don't feel I will ever 100% get away from it. But aside from a couple of weddings and funerals, I have stayed away from it.

  Mental health was extremely important to me. I had such a boatload of unresolved issues that caused me to enlist as a JW to begin with. I had to address them. Bonnie Zieman's books had not existed yet. They would have helped tremendously.

  https://www.amazon.com/Bonnie-Zieman/e/B00XROE7JG%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share

  But I did find some great books on science, religion, philosophy, cults, etc. etc. and I did pretty good. I have a good job with health benefits, so I went to a therapist at the beginning of getting out and did even better.
  
  The COVID19 thing has reared it's JW-ness into my life. Many many JW's I have known have my cell number and haven't spoken or texted in years. I was grateful they were leaving me alone. Because they know I am a first responder, a few of them have taken to texting me their concerns. But I know it is short-lived, as they are just a bunch of busy busy pioneers and elders that suddenly are not so busy. Sometime soon, they will be back to being fully immersed in their false spirituality and I can go back to being left alone.
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  Who is considered more bizarre?

  by incognito2014 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jws or mormons.

  from a public point of view not from people within the religion as that would be obvious.. examples of extreme beliefs or behaviour would be useful..

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  I am with JeffT on page 1
  

  I've long thought that Mormons have some weird beliefs, but they are much better members of the community than JW's.

  
  Mormons are weirder and have a much crazier doctrine and have still achieved the Watchtower dream- being considered a more mainstream religion. Kinda like they are just more devout, but still do Christmas and serve in the military and put education high on their list of priorities.

  They may be more accepted in the United States for all that, plus they are extremely a white religion.
  
  
  
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  How can I promote a book that is exJW related?

  by VerdadTJ2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have a friend in guatemala who was born and raised in el salvador.. he wrote a book in spanish which i am translating to english.. normally, he would be making enough money to provide for his family by working at a textile factory as their graphics designer.

  but, given the covid19 crisis, he was laid off.. he was hoping to make a little side money by writing a book before this whole covid19 thing hit, and he sold only a few copies of the spanish version, because the market is small and it's really small in the spanish-speaking exjw community.the book is really good, it's very entertaining, and it gives a fresh perspective of what it was to be a latino jw and coming of age in the early 1990's.so... any tips on how to promote it?

  i would like to sell it at $10usd and sell at least 100 copies.

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  OnTheWayOut

  Here is how you promote an ex-JW book.
  I wrote a book. Here's the link: https://www.amazon.com/Fade-Truth-Learning-Unlearning-Witnesses-ebook/dp/B007XAMTCW/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=fade+from+the+truth&qid=1587768117&sr=8-1
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  I think Limbaugh is out and out wrong on this

  by JimmyYoung in

  1. social
  2. current

  i listen to rush most days for entertainment.

  i agree with him on some issues and disagree on others.

  but today he said something i believe is an out and out lie.

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  I think Limbaugh is out and out wrong (on this)
  He's just out and out wrong on most anything.
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  Do You Believe Joe Biden Sexually Assaulted A Woman In The 90’s?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there is an allegation floating around saying he assaulted one of his female staffers .

  most mainstream media do not report on this claim.

  they either don’t believe it or don’t want to believe it.. funny how if it were brett kavanaugh or donald trump, they would be all over it.

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  I had to give Brett Kavanaugh a pass on such an allegation as was presented so I will do the same for Joe.
  That said, I do think the charge needs to be looked into more seriously than it has been.
  
  Minimus said: "I bet Joe could pass a lie detector test and say he didn’t molest anyone. He doesn’t know where he is right now."
  
  Sadly, I think Joe would pass the test for such a reason.
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  What's the difference? Million? Billion? Trillion? For the curious among us ...

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what's the difference?

  a millionaire, a billionaire, and a trillionaire recognize each other outside an attorney’s office.

  chat reveals each of them just signed off on their last will and testament.millionaire: “i feel really good about what i did here today.

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  OnTheWayOut

  Stolen from a Facebook meme:

  There should be NO billionaires.

  Once you reach $999 Million, all further earnings go to taxes for the poor, you get a trophy that says "I won capitalism" and they name a dog park after you.
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  Circuit Overseer to Answer My Questions + Concerns...or Not

  by Research in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hello all, i'm 'researching', a jw who is in the first steps of taking a look at their beliefs.. i've semi-recently (about a couple weeks ago) heard about the sexual abuse cases (pennsylvania attorney general’s investigation request) and then the arc in 2015. this lead to a deep investigation, which lead to many questions arising.

  a jw friend of mine suggested i be careful (due to apostates) and ask the brothers.

  so i typed up my questions + concerns and emailed an elder my mother has known for a long time.

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  OnTheWayOut

  All you get from them will probably be "Have faith, wait on Jehovah, the world belongs to Satan and many people lie to make money." Then they will go into the "No True Scotsman" defense. (You can look that up in wikipedia.) Basically, if a JW isn't acting right, then they are not a true JW.
  
  All the stuff about the 2 witnesses- they will NOW say that is just part of the congregation and doesn't change the legal side of the issue and they will not really address how it has done so much harm, like in the findings of the ARC.
  
  But ask away.
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  Expect 90% of pimi's to go down with the ship here's why

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been feeding my very pimi brother tidbits and clippings of all the csa issues coming to light the last five years and all the org's business dealings of hundreds of closed halls congs dissolving etc.

  and reminding him of all the failed prophecies etc etc.

  although he would listen and acknowledge.

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  OnTheWayOut

  Just as most will never let go, I will never fully let go of hope that my people will let go- or at least I hope my wife will lose enough interest to stay fully involved into her retirement years.
  
  They may never let go, but they get more and more involved with "the world" and less and less involved with living and breathing and thinking JW stuff 24/7. You never know.