OnTheWayOut

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  My mom

  by vienne in

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  2. experiences

  i'm annie, rachael's daughter.

  mom died yesterday.

  i can't find a way to delete her account here.

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  OnTheWayOut

  My deepest condolences. I haven't followed your mom. Could someone provide some info. on the 1st book so I could find it?
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  Do You Think The Bible Teaches A Trinity As Religions Teach?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  i’m not asking whether you believe in the bible.

  i just want your opinion as to whether you think the bible teaches it.

  i don’t, for what it’s worth..

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  OnTheWayOut

  I am quite fond of understanding that men teach various ideas and use the Bible to support them.
  The Bible can be used to support hatred, love, abortion, no-abortion, a Trinity, no-Trinity.
  
  I think you get the idea. All teachings are from men, and the Bible is just their tool to say "SEE, IT SAYS SO...."
  
  Do I think the Bible teaches a Trinity as some religions teach? No, but it doesn't straight up teach that God's active force (or spirit) and Jesus are definitely not part of each other. Still, it sounds like crazy shit that men made up.
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  Howdie!

  by Olesatthewheel in

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  2. friends

  evening all.

  my first post - born in but faded 15 years ago before that i was pimo for a number of years.. to put it bluntly the whole jw religion/thing is a crock of shit.

  i sort of figured this out for myself before i faded but reading posts and comments on this forum confirms this.

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  OnTheWayOut

  Howdy back at you.
  
  Many were raised in it. Their ability to know better was wired out of some brains.
  Many were convinced they knew something special that the rest of the world just is blinded to.
  
  Mainly, its a dangerous mind-control cult and it uses deceitful means to get people thinking the wrong way.

  Otherwise, I am kind of with you. While I was sucked in (for reasons too long to cover in one post) I remember reading that it is something we should figure out eventually. Well, it took me 20-ish years, but I feel like most should get tired of it or smell something rotten about it.
  
  Anyway, welcome. Howdy. See you around the forums.
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  Need help. Daughter wants to leave org but does not know how.

  by Indian Larry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  long question, but very important.. i can use some help.

  my daughter wants out of the organization and i need some advise.. here is my background in a nutshell.

  i am fully faded for 10+ years.

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  OnTheWayOut

  Indian Larry, I have a good feeling that you are still reading the responses here. I hope so. You have received much caring thoughts. We are very concerned that you mention your daughter being suicidal and we don't want to say anything radical that doesn't help.
  
  I don't think anything ANYONE has said was too over-the-top radical like that.

  I also think your daughter has to be herself in that she has to ultimately decide how to get out. I would tell her to work up a plan with her counselor. One of the best books I discovered long after I got out was Bonnie Zieman's EXITING THE JW CULT. She's a former JW turned counselor with a great help to the depressed as they discover the truth about "the truth." RUN TO AMAZON and get that for her. DO IT!!!
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  Remember 1992?

  by Tobyjones262 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  anyone remember 1992?

  i can remember i was in the cult.

  times were changing at a rapid pace.

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  OnTheWayOut

  I was fully involved in 1992. Baptized in 1988 and married by the end of 1990, ministerial servant on his way to elder. I have to agree with Slimboyfat on page 1 of this thread that "1995 was the turning point for JWs."
  
  No turning back. The "generation of 1914" was expiring. So up to that point, they were very busy convincing themselves that everything was fine. The end is right around this very next corner.

  Well, it expired. It didn't happen. The JW's left are just denying their disappointment.
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  Be Bold Circult assembly

  by Rattigan350 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  at the 2018-2019 be bold circult assembly yesterday.

  yes, curcult, change the i to an l. because when they have 2 demonstrations about youths not going to university and another talk says for adults at work to be bold and refuse birthday treats being given away, it shows so much pettiness and lack of real concern for the people.. i was actually looking forward to the ca because a week before tornadoes went through our circuit and passed 2 miles by a kingdom hall and less than 1 mile by another that had meetings that afternoon.

  i was expecting the circult overseer to give a report on it.

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  OnTheWayOut

  Be Bold. HA!
  
  Like standing back from your literature cart, just counting time and not bothering anybody.
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  Sacramento Senate Bill & Town Hall Meeting with EX-JW Child Abuse Survivors- March 8th , 2019

  by flipper in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.facebook.com/sarita.piti/posts/2613606355321841.

  https://www.facebook.com/roger.bentley.986/posts/526951087814763.

  https://www.facebook.com/sarita.piti/posts/2618755001473643.

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  OnTheWayOut

  O.K. ! So last night after 14 ex-JW child abuse victims shared their stories on film in Sacramento to be aired at a later date ; my son and myself had an invitation to join among these survivors at a dinner later ....

  
  That is awesome.
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  JW at a thrift store....

  by Muddy Waters in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so i was recently in a thrift store, looking through some of the stuff there, when another aisle over, somebody sneezed.. (as far as i know, nobody lost a meatball.... 😅🙃 ...).

  anyway, somebody sneezed.

  and somebody immediately said, “bless you!”.

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  OnTheWayOut

  When people said "Bless you" or "Happy holiday" or any such stuff, I generally said "Thank you."
  
  Ridiculous to display contempt for good intentions.
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  The Fading Loop Hole

  by new boy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my father in law (robert stillman) killed himself in 1993. after the "new light" came out in 1981 we could no longer have limited contact with dis-fellowedshipped persons.

  after years of being shunned by his only family he blow his brains out with a 38 special.

  at the time of his death, the only thing bob was doing that wasn’t in line with the society’s rules and regulations was smoking.

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  OnTheWayOut

  Fading away is a loop hole, but it has its problems.
  
  
  
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  Ending Bible Study

  by Maria Nieves in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been studying with jehovah's witnesses for approximately two years.

  initially, i liked the studies and felt that i was growing closer to god.

  however, as the studies progressed, they seemed to become increasingly negative and i did not like what i was being taught.

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  OnTheWayOut

  I have skimmed 7 pages. Maria, it sounds like you hope to keep JW's as friends, particularly your study conductor.
  
  First of all, she hasn't gone out of her way FOR YOU. She did it for the organization- to count her time and buy her way into paradise. But that doesn't mean she doesn't care about you.
  
  Instead of attempting to address your particular issue, I will highlight my own to make the point. I was an elder, I was well-liked. I did not sin to get kicked out, I drifted away (to make that long story short).
  
  All the JW's did not have to shun me, and they don't really shun me. But they don't call, they don't check on me. If I am not with them, then they have no need for me. I used to have people tell my wife they miss me. My answer was "Then lets do lunch." Never had a reply because "we miss you" means "Get back to the Kingdom Hall."
  
  My in-laws and my mother, my wife's best friend and her husband- they treat me with respect and are okay with me. They have managed to put aside a JW unwritten rule to have nothing to do with me. I respect them for that.
  
  As for the rest of them, in my case I say good riddance. My own best friend has nothing to do with me. I made new friends and got closer to non-JW family. The important part is my own mental health.