OnTheWayOut

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  Just wanted to share my little bit of good news.

  by nicolaou in

  1. social
  2. family

  i haven't been posting here much lately, i think i only created one topic in 2018!

  but this is worth it.. i am a grandfather 😊.

  it happens all the time but damn, it feels good.

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  OnTheWayOut

  Great post. Congrats. Rock on!!!
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  I Am Still Here! Another Birthday look back at one helluva lifetime

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when the doctor pulled my screaming body out of mom all those 7 decades ago, i landed in a post-wwii world.the world of 1947--compared to today's world--an alien planet.. the world i live in today has nothing in common with the world in which i grew up.. there were no cell phones back then--there were black telephones with a dial-tone and an operator who placed your call.

  everywhere you found telephone booths!

  a call was a nickel.where did all those telephone booths go?i dunno.where did my whole world go?i dunno.. tv sets were huge boxes with tubes and small screens.

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  OnTheWayOut

  My dad is about 5 years older than you, so I am going to take some of what you posted here and come up with a birthday thing for him next year. Growing up from virtually any point in the first half of the 2oth century allows one to have seen fascinating changes.
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  Crisis of Conscience is being delivered to my door today. I can't wait

  by Fognomore in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  since i have no one else to talk to about what i am going through, i just thought i would let this group know that i have .

  crisis of conscience coming to my front door today.

  i already know what i will say if my wife says something.

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  OnTheWayOut

  Great book, I wish you happy reading and I wish you well answering up about reading it.
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  Demon Posessed Rock Bands I couldn’t listen to

  by hoser in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  kiss.

  steve miller band (abracadabra).

  eagles.

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  OnTheWayOut

  I gave up classic rock to join JW's at about 23 years old. Loved, Zep, Floyd, AC DC, Eagles, Talking Heads, etc. etc.

  I went back to it. My self-induced theme song for my life is "Back in Black" by AC DC- as a tribute to my old, revived rock n roller personality. Forget the hearse because I never die(d).

  I go to concerts from old rockers before they cease, including AC DC, Sting, Peter Gabriel, Foreigner, Cheap Trick, Ozzy, Steely Dan, Fleetwood Mac, Foghat, Deep Purple, and more.

  I never saw Led Zeppelin, but have seen Jon Bonham's cover band several times. Never saw Pink Floyd but saw cover bands Brit Floyd and Australian Pink Floyd.
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  Did you actually read the bible end to end?

  by Ultimate Axiom in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in my ten years as a witness i never read the whole bible end to end, what with four magazines a month, the book study, meetings and talk preparations, there just wasn’t the time.

  i knew all the important references to ‘prove’ the various jw doctrines, and the cherry picked chapters that help foster the idea that it’s a good book, but that’s not reading it.

  well after nearly forty years out, i decided i would do it.

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  OnTheWayOut

  Not a good Bible (yeah- oxymoron) but I kept up with the 5-year schedule for the New World Translation completely once around.

  When you read with a JW mindset, and a JW schedule, you typically have no time left to question what you read.

  Otherwise, I agree on this:

  "And as for God, well words fail me to describe his disgusting behaviour. "
  
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  You Don't Have to Tell the Elders Anything!

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if you were ever brought before a judicial committee, and were about to be interrogated by the elders, just remember...you owe them nothing.

  they are mere men and no better than you!

  even if it wasn’t a judicial interrogation , you should never feel obligated to them.

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  OnTheWayOut

  Excellent post subject, Minimus.

  Truly, whether you are questioning the org or are involved in a violation of the rules, steer clear of the elders.
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  Is the org. Laying the groundwork for no earthly paradise?

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in stephen letts annual meeting talk he spent about 15min.

  talking about how the garden of eden compares to our spiritual paradise that we are currently inhabiting.

  he didn't mention the earthly paradise until the very last sentence.

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  OnTheWayOut

  Physical Paradise is a core concept. They won't ditch it. Its just that they want to keep bracing the members for unrealized expectations, so they may not get Paradise soon, but they already have spiritual Paradise.
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  WT Study October 2018....spinning ''layoffs'' into ''reassigning'' ex-Bethelites ''to the field''

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  wt study october 2018. maintain inner peace despite changing circumstances.

  lloyd and alexandra learn that they have been reassigned to the field, they at first felt sad.

  after all, they had been serving at bethel for over 25 years.

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  OnTheWayOut

  Bethel layoffs in the earlier 2000's were what pushed me over the edge at actually looking to the internet for what is wrong with Watchtower.

  Its the Bethel "family." I thought they should have found a way to keep people and just not ever bring new ones in uf old ones were getting the boot. Send them out of the printing press to do something, but feed and shelter them.
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  What Will Take Away The Reins Of Power From This Delusional Bunch Of Governing Body Saints?

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  will it be the complete and utter mismanagement of child abuse issues due to a total disregard for children and not wanting to bringing reproach upon corporate jehovah's name?.

  or will it be some other thing?

  i strongly think the governing body's days as g. o. d. are numbered due to their complete incompetence to rule a corporation, brought on by a big and getting bigger shadow, and a persistent denial of anything negative about their corporation's claims to be god's earthly organization.

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  OnTheWayOut

  they sold off 2 billion $$$ worth in real estate holdings

  But they cannot do that again and again, and they will keep selling Kingdom Halls as their numbers shrink. That has limits.

  I doubt the core faithful will walk away because of any mismanagement or GB actions. They will possibly die off as numbers continue to decrease- because recruitment of outsiders and retention of the children is way down and will never recover because of the internet. Or maybe when there are few left, the GB will take their leave to some tropical island compound, leaving instruction for all to fend for themselves.
  
  
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  Don't give them 2019

  by snare&racket in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am writing the post i have wanted to write for some time.

  it's a heartfelt note to those still attending meetings, still caught between the lines of watchtower and the world.

  those with kids or a spouse in the society..... despite being mentally out....those who have weighed up that there is too much to lose in leaving.

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  OnTheWayOut

  I want to say that we actually do understand that it is tough to walk away and fundamentally change your kids' lives, their friendships and possibly their family communication.

  If its just you, decide for yourself. But if you think keeping your kids in so they don't lise contact with Grandma and their cousins, stop and really think about it. There is so much that a JW child must miss out on. It has hurt for awhile, but its going to hurt more if they leave as young adults.

  That's all.