Posts by OnTheWayOut

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Demon Posessed Rock Bands I couldn’t listen to

by hoser in

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kiss.

steve miller band (abracadabra).

eagles.

OnTheWayOut

I gave up classic rock to join JW's at about 23 years old. Loved, Zep, Floyd, AC DC, Eagles, Talking Heads, etc. etc.

I went back to it. My self-induced theme song for my life is "Back in Black" by AC DC- as a tribute to my old, revived rock n roller personality. Forget the hearse because I never die(d).

I go to concerts from old rockers before they cease, including AC DC, Sting, Peter Gabriel, Foreigner, Cheap Trick, Ozzy, Steely Dan, Fleetwood Mac, Foghat, Deep Purple, and more.

I never saw Led Zeppelin, but have seen Jon Bonham's cover band several times. Never saw Pink Floyd but saw cover bands Brit Floyd and Australian Pink Floyd.

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Did you actually read the bible end to end?

by Ultimate Axiom in

in my ten years as a witness i never read the whole bible end to end, what with four magazines a month, the book study, meetings and talk preparations, there just wasn’t the time.

i knew all the important references to ‘prove’ the various jw doctrines, and the cherry picked chapters that help foster the idea that it’s a good book, but that’s not reading it.

well after nearly forty years out, i decided i would do it.

OnTheWayOut

Not a good Bible (yeah- oxymoron) but I kept up with the 5-year schedule for the New World Translation completely once around.

When you read with a JW mindset, and a JW schedule, you typically have no time left to question what you read.

Otherwise, I agree on this:

"And as for God, well words fail me to describe his disgusting behaviour. "

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You Don't Have to Tell the Elders Anything!

by minimus in

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if you were ever brought before a judicial committee, and were about to be interrogated by the elders, just remember...you owe them nothing.

they are mere men and no better than you!

even if it wasn’t a judicial interrogation , you should never feel obligated to them.

OnTheWayOut

Excellent post subject, Minimus.

Truly, whether you are questioning the org or are involved in a violation of the rules, steer clear of the elders.

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Is the org. Laying the groundwork for no earthly paradise?

by nowwhat? in

in stephen letts annual meeting talk he spent about 15min.

talking about how the garden of eden compares to our spiritual paradise that we are currently inhabiting.

he didn't mention the earthly paradise until the very last sentence.

Physical Paradise is a core concept. They won't ditch it. Its just that they want to keep bracing the members for unrealized expectations, so they may not get Paradise soon, but they already have spiritual Paradise.

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WT Study October 2018....spinning ''layoffs'' into ''reassigning'' ex-Bethelites ''to the field''

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

wt study october 2018. maintain inner peace despite changing circumstances.

lloyd and alexandra learn that they have been reassigned to the field, they at first felt sad.

after all, they had been serving at bethel for over 25 years.

OnTheWayOut

Bethel layoffs in the earlier 2000's were what pushed me over the edge at actually looking to the internet for what is wrong with Watchtower.

Its the Bethel "family." I thought they should have found a way to keep people and just not ever bring new ones in uf old ones were getting the boot. Send them out of the printing press to do something, but feed and shelter them.

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What Will Take Away The Reins Of Power From This Delusional Bunch Of Governing Body Saints?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

will it be the complete and utter mismanagement of child abuse issues due to a total disregard for children and not wanting to bringing reproach upon corporate jehovah's name?.

or will it be some other thing?

i strongly think the governing body's days as g. o. d. are numbered due to their complete incompetence to rule a corporation, brought on by a big and getting bigger shadow, and a persistent denial of anything negative about their corporation's claims to be god's earthly organization.

OnTheWayOut

they sold off 2 billion $$$ worth in real estate holdings

But they cannot do that again and again, and they will keep selling Kingdom Halls as their numbers shrink. That has limits.

I doubt the core faithful will walk away because of any mismanagement or GB actions. They will possibly die off as numbers continue to decrease- because recruitment of outsiders and retention of the children is way down and will never recover because of the internet. Or maybe when there are few left, the GB will take their leave to some tropical island compound, leaving instruction for all to fend for themselves.

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Don't give them 2019

by snare&racket in

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i am writing the post i have wanted to write for some time.

it's a heartfelt note to those still attending meetings, still caught between the lines of watchtower and the world.

those with kids or a spouse in the society..... despite being mentally out....those who have weighed up that there is too much to lose in leaving.

OnTheWayOut

I want to say that we actually do understand that it is tough to walk away and fundamentally change your kids' lives, their friendships and possibly their family communication.

If its just you, decide for yourself. But if you think keeping your kids in so they don't lise contact with Grandma and their cousins, stop and really think about it. There is so much that a JW child must miss out on. It has hurt for awhile, but its going to hurt more if they leave as young adults.

That's all.

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The Reasons for Cart Witnessing

by Simon in

whatever we think of it, you have to admit that it's quite "genius".. the door to door ministry as done in western developed countries where the jw quirky religion has probably reached their saturation level was a complete and utter waste of time in terms of the effort expended to recruit people.. at the same time, it was rarely something that anyone enjoyed which led to people being labelled as inactive, being pressured to doing more and maybe ultimately deciding jwism wasn't for them and leaving.. there was also the issue that many jws are actually pretty bad at knowing and articulating their beliefs so were pretty incapable of getting any meaningful message across.. they solved all this with the cart witnessing.

the real point isn't to recruit, it's to make life easier for jws.

now they can stand and chat with their friend, have a coffee, not talk to anyone or make eye contact and still act as a walking billboard for jw.org.

OnTheWayOut

The real point isn't to recruit, it's to make life easier for JWs. Now they can stand and chat with their friend, have a coffee, not talk to anyone or make eye contact and still act as a walking billboard for JW.org.

I haven't read all the responses, so I hope this was covered already.

The organization doesn't give a damn about making life easier for JW's. They just didn't want to keep printing so many mags and books that those damned JW's would eventually put in doorways of not-at-home-householders.
Householders didn't pay for them. The JW's didn't really pay for them because they felt they were doing enough giving their time and money enough for the Kingdom Hall and Assembly Hall.

Cart witnessing was about filling the cart with literature then letting it sit there. Less given out means less printing of stuff nobody was paying for. If it happened to make life easier for some witnesses, then they see it as a win-win.

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Why are EXJWs so rude ?

by Not_Culty in

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OnTheWayOut

JW's have their persecution complex that makes them feel like the organization is RIGHT, and they are attacked by Satan's world because they are RIGHT.

So yeah, anything negative at all is an attack of rudeness (or worse) despite whatever they say against the Catholic Church or any other religion being far worse.

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All the culty name that were used instead of JWs

by kairos in

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the truththe society.

the friends...you remember.

OnTheWayOut

Jehovah's earthly organization

True Christians