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  Genesis to Revelation = Failure for God

  by pleaseresearch in

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  no matter how i look at this.

  god comes out losing.

  the first humans on earth.

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  OnTheWayOut

  So much is wrong in that Bible.
  How about Lot's two daughters getting him drunk enough to not know he's having sex with his daughter TWO NIGHTS IN A ROW? Yet he was a righteous man.
  
  I have similar problems as you mentioned with millions dying at the flood and with the same at Armageddon.
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  What Is The Most Ridiculous Thing You Have Heard From A Witness?

  by minimus in

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  i remember an elder questioning a woman who had admitted to giving and receiving oral sex from her unbelieving mate.

  he asked her the most intimate questions which clearly flustered her.

  interestingly, she “confessed “ to the elders because her conscience bothered her.

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  OnTheWayOut

  Stifled the questioner and she was “only” given private reproof.

  
  So you mean she's been missing out since then? How many years?
  
  
  My JW mother loves to say: "The most dangerous people are those that are sure they are right but they are not."
  I die laughing and crying a little bit every time she says it.
  
  
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  Memorial Question

  by charity7 in

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  2. beliefs

  hi guys.

  my husband is a jw and i have a question because yesterday was the memorial.

  i was wondering how they pick the date for the memorial because, even though religious groups are celebrating today as easter, next sunday is actually the anniversary date of the resurrection according to the jewish calendar?

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  OnTheWayOut

  I think this is another clear cut case of "WE ARE RIGHT, OTHERS ARE WRONG!"

  Best answer by stillin on this thread:
  "The GB wants to out-Jew the Jewish faith."

  It doesn't matter how they arrive at it, it is enough to know that it is added to their smug attitude about holidays, birthdays, stake vs. cross, and the likes.
  
  
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  How long since your last memorial?

  by NewYork44M in

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  this is my 15th year without going to the memorial.

  based on comments, it seems i did not miss anything.

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  OnTheWayOut

  ELEVEN YEARS.
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  If you're expecting a mass exodus anytime soon, FORGET ABOUT IT!

  by nowwhat? in

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  i have to make a token appearance at the k.h.

  once a month or so and this week went to a different hall.

  and believe me they are all still totally oblivious to all the negative news about the pedophiles and shunning that have come under scrutiny by the media and other governments.

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  OnTheWayOut

  The main point is that on the jdub rank and file level in the U.S. they are still clueless and oblivious as to what's going on in other countries.

  
  So true. Even when I say something to a JW about Australia or the U.K., they do not want to find out, they assume it's just propaganda from Satan's world, YADDA YADDA YADDA!!!
  
  

  It is going to take a major news outlet in prime time For the word to get out about the pedophile cover up by the org.

  
  Even that- there's been enough news by major sources to get all of California riled up, but it hasn't happened.
  News moves on, JW's assume it's overblown, or it's one person with a vengeance getting lawyers to settle things. It would have to be WAY BIGGER to get U.S. attention of JW's.
  
  I have resigned myself to accept that Watchtower will only go away if it is financially crippled. And some members will still be stuck in cult mode asking, "Where do we go now?"
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  My search for religion.

  by joe134cd in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  since leaving the jws i have become more interested in finding out about other faiths.

  here are a few of my findings.. lds: i just couldnt get my head around the mental gymnastics i would have to do to understand their doctrines and theology.

  i attended their services twice.

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  OnTheWayOut

  I gotta say Joe, you visited some fringe outfits.
  Might as well try Secular Humanists, Unitarian Universalists, and who is to say that Christianity is the one true way?
  There are so many variations within. Disagree on one key point and you got yourself another Christian religion.
  
  What about the Muslims and Buddhists and Hindus and YADDA YADDA YADDA?
  
  I found it was sufficient to do my research online and through books in order to dismiss them all. And while I haven't specifically researched every last one of them, I figured the ONE TRUE FAITH should find me. The last time I wanted the ONE TRUE FAITH, I wound up as a Jehovah's Witness. Don't wanna wind up in a dangerous mind-control cult AGAIN!
  
  
  
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  boyfriend ex jehovah witness please help

  by whatisthis12 in

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  so i posted yesterday.

  my boyfriend and i have been living together for a year, and he went to the memorial tonight (sorry if that’s not what it’s called).

  i told him i was upset he didn’t invite me but wasn’t going to tell him not to go because he hasn’t talked to his family for over a year.

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  OnTheWayOut

  Although you probably need it a little harsh, I will try to say it in a way that isn't as hard-hitting as comments before mine.
  
  He may not want to live the Jehovah's Witnesses lifestyle, but he misses his family. He hasn't necessarily deceived you, but he isn't sure if he wants a life with you or a life with them yet.
  
  He wanted to go to the Memorial without you because he could then have open "fellowship" with his family, but if you were there, they would have almost certainly kept their distance. You would be the proof that he is not trying to live a moral (as defined by them) life.
  
  But as stated, you cannot proceed with a relationship while he is subject to going back and forth on his issues.
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  Roll Call for the benefit of Newbies and Lurkers. In One Sentence tell why you left the Org.

  by Wasanelder Once in

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  roll call for the benefit of newbies and lurkers.

  in one sentence tell why you left the org.

  not 2 sentences.

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  OnTheWayOut

  So many things disturbed me about double standards for elders and their family or changing doctrines or money issues that I finally overcame some kind of programmed fear and simply googled "Jehovah's Witnesses" and started discovering all the lies.
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  Go to memorial tonight and chug the entire cup when it's passed to you

  by Bad_Wolf in

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  has anybody done this?

  i'd love to hear the story.

  i wonder how they'd scramble to fix that if somebody chugged the whole glass, and even more if was set up with two people to sit in places to get both glasses at the same time.

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  OnTheWayOut

  Spoiling their day with any such action would have to be therapeutic for the person doing it, because it just adds fuel to their fire of persecution complex.
  
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  Being a JW kid is hell

  by JRK in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in therapy, i was told i should write a letter of grievances to each of my parents.

  i really do not have any for my mother, except for things that directly relate to being raised as a jehovah's witness.

  upon reflection, my childhood was hell because of the religion and its pernicious corruption of a normal childhood.

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  JRK: It was strange, when the therapist told me to write the letters, I thought I had no resentments towards my mother. Then I thought of the religion and it poured out. Mom was the sweetest person, but the cult messed her up.
  
  Her problem, not mine- but my JW mother thinks all my problems are caused by my alcoholic father because I am an alcoholic and because I am smart like him and maybe a few other "like him" things.
  In therapy, I know there's tons of feelings about my mother also, and not all of them are JW stuff.
  
  For me, the important thing at therapy was not so much "assigning blame" to anyone, but understanding what happened and being able to move forward from it. I hope that helps.