Posts by OnTheWayOut

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good article on how the Bible could have easily proven it's from God

by defender of truth in

www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/02/13/six-and-a-half-reasons-why-the-bible-is-not-divinely-inspired/.

OnTheWayOut

EverApostate

I know that was sarcastic. Anyway, Let me play the prosecution for OnTheWayOut

So, the Bible is only for those ancient people. And why couldn't God create a Bible for sinful humans to understand

I had a nice answer typed out and something with the quotes makes me drop my response outside of them. So here I go again:

To answer from THEIR POINT OF VIEW, The Bible did need to be understood by those ancient people, but God knows that if we ask for help today, we can understand it also.

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not a new topic - really a pet peave

by Moster in

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makes me crazy:.

there: go over there!.

their: they own it; belonging to etc.. for the love of pete - use them correctly!.

OnTheWayOut

I have too say, "You guys are to funny." I have some pet peaves two.

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Poisonous chicken

by zeb in

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last night my wife prepared dinner.

chicken and veg.

as she was cooking the chicken it gave off the most vile smell.

OnTheWayOut

Okay Zeb, people are dancing around this question- If the chicken "gave off the most vile smell" while she was cooking it, WHY EAT A PIECE? WHY GIVE SOME TO THE CAT?

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good article on how the Bible could have easily proven it's from God

by defender of truth in

www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/02/13/six-and-a-half-reasons-why-the-bible-is-not-divinely-inspired/.

OnTheWayOut

Ha, let me play the Devil's Advocate-

God did not make His Word unclear. The Bible is perfectly clear. The reason that the Bible can sometimes be hard to understand is that we are all fallen beings - sin clouds and distorts our understanding and leads us to twist the Bible to our own liking.
It was written for the people of the time and we are supposed to look at it through their vision. The culture in which the Bible was written was very different from the cultures that exist today. The actions of nomadic shepherds in 1800 B.C. in the Middle East often do not make much sense to Westerners or Europeans of the 21st-century. When trying to understand the clear messages of the Bible, we must remove the 21st-century “lenses” we have and try to recognize the culture in which the Bible was written.
The Bible is straightforward on the issues of morality and conduct. [Whichever "MY" belief is] is the correct understanding of such. Misinterpretations are due to our sinfulness, our pride, our own prejudices or our own desire to show our morality as better than that of those who don't know "the truth." When we study the Bible, we must ask God to remove the biases from our minds and help us interpret His Word apart from our own shortcomings. This is often a difficult step to take, as it requires humility and a willingness to admit mistakes.

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Rock band titles from JW history / culture

by sir82 in

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on another thread, undercover suggested "adam and the dinosaurs".. i came up with these:.

green bible dinosaurs.

jezebel and the fornicators.

OnTheWayOut

You guys are hilarious. Some serious names:

Christian Rock Groups:
Only In The Lord
Ministerial Servants
Waiting On Jehovah
Spirit Direction
Happified
Scripturally Free

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People Asking Me To Help Them Leave

by pale.emperor in

i dont know if it's due to the last convention, the recent broadcasts, the internet or just plain fatigue - but since the convention i've had a few people contact me via facebook messenger asking how i am then cutting to the chase asking me what it's like "on the outside" or "how did you adjust after leaving?

" and asking me how they can leave the wt but keep their families.. my reply is always the same, i show real genuine interest and concern and listen to their situation.

then i suggest a fade, how to fade, to ignore or reject elders visits, to not talk about their doubts to active jws under any circumstances and finally point them to this site.

OnTheWayOut

All have to weigh their decisions. I think it's wonderful that so many want to find a way to leave, and I hope you find it a compliment that they come to you.

My decision was that, no matter what, I hadda get outta there. If a fade didn't work, I was still going.

Maybe some of the big questions need to be listed for people. Stuff like:

Could you continue going to the KH for the rest of your life for the sake of others?

Can you think of anyone inactive or barely active that your loved ones do not shun? Why?

Are you suppressing a lifestyle and feel that you are betraying yourself if you don't say something, do something, leave the witnesses?

Will it hurt your health/stability/emotional well being more to stay or to leave and lose all that?

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I am grateful for leaving the watchtower corporation. Innit!

by punkofnice in

i dislike long topics......so here it is.. i suffered for my religion, now it's your turn.. when i first left the corporation my life exploded into a suicidal chaos.. my family broke up.

i lost my so called friends.. luckily, i had worldly friends from all walks of life that supported me, even though they had no idea why i was so suicidal.

in as much as they hadn't left cults.. i went from the corporation to a baptist church.

OnTheWayOut

I am grateful to be out also, and happy for you too.

If you mean you are an unsuccessful author because it isn't financially supporting you, okay. But I found so much reward in writing my story. Money isn't everything. I had hoped to write more but I got it out of me. Maybe one day.

My stint of "maybe Christendom is right" was short lived. Its been wonderful to be free to learn and examine, and I agree with tlyour God thoughts. The greatest thing I take away from gaining my freedom is that I don't judge people. I will argue where appropriate, but not so much face-to-face over God issues.

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How To Fade Away Cleanly?

by SplaneThisToMe in

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this is my first post and hopefully i can get some advice and input.

i have been actively involved with the organization for a little over 10 years now.

i began studying in high school, got baptized and my family fortunately did not.

OnTheWayOut

I faded out for family. Family can put up with leaving the religion if they really want to. Mine wants to.

Friends, on the other hand- if they remain believers, they usually distance themselves from the totally inactive friend. Your only real hope among them is that someone is mentally out.

But you will find new friends and figure out a path.

Sorry if that's not positive enough.

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Adam and the Dinosaurs

by The Real Edward Gentry in

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here is a fascinating subject.

according to the bible , one of adam's first assignments was to name all the animals including the sea creatures and dinosaurs of course.

we don't know how long this took but, as all witnesses know, the time period is crucial in working out the timing of armageddon).

OnTheWayOut

One of Adam's first assignments was to name all the animals including the sea creatures and dinosaurs of course. We don't know how long this took but, as all witnesses know, the time period is crucial in working out the timing of Armageddon).

JW's don't necessarily think that dinosaurs had not already gone extinct by Adam's time. Something about the earth having much vegetation to balance the atmosphere, and dinosaurs to remove the vegetation, and then their need was over.

Also, "....as all witnesses know, the time period is crucial in working out the timing of Armageddon" !!!
Who told you that crap? All witnesses do not know a bunch of the doctrine. And all the stuff about when Adam was created and when the last creative day started/ended- that's stuff of Fred Franz' day. It has nothing to do with the supposed timing of Armageddon now, that's stuff of the overlapping generation.

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How can a dead chicken atone for your sins?

by Fisherman in

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the article says that the dead chickens are given to the poor but i was told that the chickens are thrown into the garbage.

(who could possibly eat a chicken full of sin?).

https://www.google.com/amp/abc7ny.com/amp/religion/exclusive-dead-chickens-in-cages-as-part-of-jewish-ritual/2457387/.

OnTheWayOut

I could eat a chicken full of sin.