Welcome Joe! Love your area...just gorgeous. Lots of exJW's in ARizona; met a few from Phoenix and Tucson.
Glad you are here.
i was an elder in prescott for many years... anyone now out from there?
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Welcome Joe! Love your area...just gorgeous. Lots of exJW's in ARizona; met a few from Phoenix and Tucson.
Glad you are here.
they key to free yourself from the organization is having mental clarity of what is happening in relation to the watchtower, inside and out.
their basic concept is that they are god's sole organization on earth.
there really is no basis for anyone to make that statement.
It could be one thing or a hundred things, but ultimately it is the decision that you will not give them one more minute of your life. Once you decide that, you are free.
i occasionally pop through here to catch up on the latest, but this time i'm going to pop my own post on here.. some of you internet oldsters may even remember this.
my first experience on the internet regarding discussions about jehovah's witnesses and the watchtower took place on a now-obscure usenet group, before i eventually stumbled across hourglass2.. during those days, there was a poster who went by the name "prominent bethelite," an otherwise anonymous individual whom i remember most for an extensive, exhaustive compilation of date-oriented remarks, predictions, and expectations by the watchtower organization down through the decades of its history.. it became known as "the list" and it's definitely lengthy... but a fascination look at the abundance of errant statements made through the watchtower's history.. if you're curious, it's been available for a long time on hourglass2's site, and can be seen using the link provided below.. the list, compiled by prominent bethelite (1999).
that's about it for this stop through here.
Marked.
Thanks Timothy.
ok so... how to condense all the flip-flops and doctrinal changes, and show graphically how the different doctrines changed, and when?.
ttatt in a can!!.
enjoy ;).
Thank you for that! Well done!
leaving the university with my degree!.
exams are finished and it's just a matter of days before i walk.. i was certainly stressed about doing this.
i'm older than my classmates and armageddon was sooooo close!
Congratulations Billy!! That's wonderful.
musing over several rather eye-opening reactions i've recently experienced has made me wonder what others have been told that made them go...wow.. my earliest was a family member upset with me for not attending meetings who exclaimed, "but you're going to die at armageddon!
" i told them that wasn't true because the bible says that god is love and he doesn't work that way.
they were very angry with me!
I just learned last weekend that a number of people thought I faded because I was "keeping company" with a "worldly" boyfriend.
It couldn't POSSIBLY be because of the religion!
i saw two brothers this morning next to the main train station in liverpool city centre this morning.
they were not actively approaching anyone.
what i found strange was that they were from a cong that has different territory, so i don't know why they were there.. anyway i knew them both, and they know i was df'd, i was in my car and couldn't park up for a chat, but i did beep and wave to them as i drove passed and they waved back.
Definitely what cofty said. I'll have to think of what to say. It's great because they can't walk away.
I saw a stand for the first time myself yesterday while at lunch. I driving past the shopping mall where we had lunch, and there were 2 older seesters on the street sidewalk, positioned at the traffic light at the driveway entrance. I would say very little foot traffic, most would be walking on the mall property not on the external street. They looked really jazzed to be there.
I was wondering, what to loyal active JW's think of this "arrangement?" Can anyone get a cart and get "their time in?"
i have a relative by marriage, who is gay.
she has been shunned since she was 19 when she "came-out" to the family just a few weeks before she and an older married sister in the hall ran off together.
this pretty 19 year old had been babysitting for a married sister since she was in jr. high school.
Wow.
boe - confidential.
instruction: press the 'skip ad' button top right, you should then see the download screen more easily.
no virus ;-).
Calls coming in from JW friends about the letter. It's not going over very well from what I hear. Awww.
My response, "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain."
one of my best friend's, who is an ex elder had two elders visit him at his home yesterday to invite him to the memorial.
he was cordial to them because they were'nt over the top.. so far, i have had no invites, thank god..
Nope.