Posts by Dagney

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Movie BLACKFISH Reminds Me of Watchtower Corporation

by OnTheWayOut in

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you can google it to learn more but blackfish is a documentary about killed whales in captivity.

particularly a male named tilicum who wound up killing trainers, the last one in 2010.. i had to bite my tongue when my jw wife said "whad did ya think?".

i answered but wanted to say that seaworld giving the impression that trainers were most highly educated was a lie, telling the public these were isolated instances of trainer error was a lie, and all their actions and area tions made me think of wts.. trainers were typically not marine biologist but just young eager excellent swimmers.

Dagney

Being raised around Marineland and Sea World, I visited these parks my whole life and loved it. The last time I went to Marineland was before they closed, 30 years ago, and Bubbles the pilot whale was disturbed and just going up and down vertically in the middle of the pool, like a person in an episode rocking back and forth. I cannot forget that site to this day.

My bf and I were members of the American Cetacean Society, Greenpeace, (he was not a JW), Cousteau Society, and went to Sea World a lot. Sometime in the 90's for some reason we just began feeling it was wrong to keep these creatures in captivity solely for our enjoyment. We stopped going. It disgusts me.

I will see the movie. I am so glad attention will now be brought to this. Before they completely enclosed the orca show tank with glass at Sea World, there was a platform the whale could swim up to and pose. One time between shows, the whale was just free and swimming around and it decided to slide up to the platform and take a look at us sitting, no more than 5 ft away...no glass. He was looking at us and we were looking and talking to him. That eyeball...wow. He was glorious.

It's time to end this.

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Whiskey with Cigars

by confusedandalone in

i know a few folks here are huge cigar fans, i am asking if anyone can tell me a good whiskey to go with cigars.. i am sure this is kind of a broad question but i ma having some folks over for poker this weekend and i am trying to set things up real nice like... lol.

i have the cigars ready - but i don't want to break out the cheap crown royal... any suggestions.

Dagney

lovin this thread (puff puff blowwww)

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Another one...nine felony counts - Sun Valley, CA

by Dagney in

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/church-usher-charged-with-sexual-abuse-of-boy-parishioners-217825121.html.

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church usher charged with sexual abuse of boy parishionersmarcelo lozano, 34, faces nine felony countsby melissa pamer| thursday, aug 1, 2013 | updated 1:51 am pdtview comments ()|email|printadvertisementan usher at a jehovah's witnesses congregation in sun valley was charged wednesday with sexually abusing four boys he met at the church.. marcelo lozano, 34, is expected to be arraigned wednesday afternoon at van nuys superior court with nine felony counts, according to the los angeles county district attorneys office.. lozano, who was an usher for the churchs spanish congregation, allegedly abused boys who ranged from 8 to 15 years old between 2006 and 2013.. he is charged with two counts each of aggravated sexual assault of a child, continuous sexual abuse and oral copulation of a person under 14. and he faces one count each of forcible lewd act upon a child, lewd act upon a child and sodomy of a person under 14 with 10 years difference.. prosecutors will recommend that the defendants bail be set at $1.8 million, the das office said.. lozano faces a maximum term of life in state prison if convicted on all charges.. the los angeles police department is still investigating the case, the das office said.. .

Dagney

I'm gutted every time I read one of these.

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Less than one third (1/3) of Jehovah's Witnesses will survive Armageddon

by Calebs Airplane in

in the early 80's when i was just a teen, i was out in field circus one day when i overheard our cobe (called president at the time?

) telling another elder that, if armageddon were to come tomorrow, less than 1/3 of the congregation would survive.

this was actually in a bakery as we were just finishing up and they didn't even notice me standing in line as they were too busy drooling over the pastries and talking trash about a ministerial servant who decided not to go to field circus that day for whatever reason.

Dagney

Absof**kinglutely I heard it. At a district convention, before 1975, and also from a visiting CO. I looked around the hall and added up the faithful and I realized I was SOL. Why oh why didn't I just leave then!!! I didn't have the guts.

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Another one...nine felony counts - Sun Valley, CA

by Dagney in

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/church-usher-charged-with-sexual-abuse-of-boy-parishioners-217825121.html.

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church usher charged with sexual abuse of boy parishionersmarcelo lozano, 34, faces nine felony countsby melissa pamer| thursday, aug 1, 2013 | updated 1:51 am pdtview comments ()|email|printadvertisementan usher at a jehovah's witnesses congregation in sun valley was charged wednesday with sexually abusing four boys he met at the church.. marcelo lozano, 34, is expected to be arraigned wednesday afternoon at van nuys superior court with nine felony counts, according to the los angeles county district attorneys office.. lozano, who was an usher for the churchs spanish congregation, allegedly abused boys who ranged from 8 to 15 years old between 2006 and 2013.. he is charged with two counts each of aggravated sexual assault of a child, continuous sexual abuse and oral copulation of a person under 14. and he faces one count each of forcible lewd act upon a child, lewd act upon a child and sodomy of a person under 14 with 10 years difference.. prosecutors will recommend that the defendants bail be set at $1.8 million, the das office said.. lozano faces a maximum term of life in state prison if convicted on all charges.. the los angeles police department is still investigating the case, the das office said.. .

Dagney

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Church-Usher-Charged-With-Sexual-Abuse-of-Boy-Parishioners-217825121.html

Church Usher Charged With Sexual Abuse of Boy Parishioners

Marcelo Lozano, 34, faces nine felony counts

By Melissa Pamer

| Thursday, Aug 1, 2013 | Updated 1:51 AM PDT

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Church Usher Charged With Child Sex Abuse

An usher at a Jehovah's Witnesses congregation in Sun Valley was charged Wednesday with sexually abusing four boys he met at the church.

Marcelo Lozano, 34, is expected to be arraigned Wednesday afternoon at Van Nuys Superior Court with nine felony counts, according to the Los Angeles County District Attorney’s Office.

Lozano, who was an usher for the church’s Spanish congregation, allegedly abused boys who ranged from 8 to 15 years old between 2006 and 2013.

He is charged with two counts each of aggravated sexual assault of a child, continuous sexual abuse and oral copulation of a person under 14. And he faces one count each of forcible lewd act upon a child, lewd act upon a child and sodomy of a person under 14 with 10 years difference.

Prosecutors will recommend that the defendant’s bail be set at $1.8 million, the DA’s office said.

Lozano faces a maximum term of life in state prison if convicted on all charges.

The Los Angeles Police Department is still investigating the case, the DA’s office said.

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A question for elders and former elders who have served on JCs

by slimboyfat in

based on your experience of judicial committees, how would you advise someone who is due to meet with the elders and has asked for the best way to avoid being disfellowshipped?

is denying everything ever a successful strategy?

does addressing a letter to the elders threatening legal action if they disfellowship ever work?

Dagney

Interesting discussion.

Question, what is the announcement now? Is it "xxx is no longer a JW?" Do they say "disfellowshiped" from the platform still?

TIA

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Shocking talk from 2013 District Convention urges parents to shun disfellowshipped children

by cedars in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yldwe_6jsu.

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cedars.

Dagney

The problem is when you are in, you "think" you are doing the right thing, you are helping to save the disciplined one.

When you are out, it's seem so simple to see how mean and cruel it all is. This guy sounds so creepy and manipulative. The majority of the listeners I'm sure will think it's a "good talk."

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Liberace " Behind The Candelabra"

by smiddy in

wow , i`m not gay , and i dont have gay tendencies , (a couple of scenes i have to turn away) but thats just me.. i thought the movie over all was done exceedingly well.

m douglass captured liberace to a tee.

rob lowe should get an oscar for his performance.and matt damon was beleivable in his role.. i watched this movie not knowing what i was going to see,and on a scale of 1 out of 10 i would give it an 8. smiddy.

Dagney

Alrighty then. Got the 411 on Liberace's and MJ pe*ises.

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Liberace " Behind The Candelabra"

by smiddy in

wow , i`m not gay , and i dont have gay tendencies , (a couple of scenes i have to turn away) but thats just me.. i thought the movie over all was done exceedingly well.

m douglass captured liberace to a tee.

rob lowe should get an oscar for his performance.and matt damon was beleivable in his role.. i watched this movie not knowing what i was going to see,and on a scale of 1 out of 10 i would give it an 8. smiddy.

Dagney

Thanks Shirley. Gonna try and listen to it on my phone while I'm working. A break from NPR.

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Liberace " Behind The Candelabra"

by smiddy in

wow , i`m not gay , and i dont have gay tendencies , (a couple of scenes i have to turn away) but thats just me.. i thought the movie over all was done exceedingly well.

m douglass captured liberace to a tee.

rob lowe should get an oscar for his performance.and matt damon was beleivable in his role.. i watched this movie not knowing what i was going to see,and on a scale of 1 out of 10 i would give it an 8. smiddy.

Dagney

It was pretty good I thought. I had heard in an interview before seeing it that prob mentally you have some images and a feeling about this relationship. But the show was so good that soon you are just watching a relationship between people without all the baggage of who is what.

Well done.