Hi Switch
I can soooo relate, Hang in there.
DoubleVision
i've been away from jwd for a month or so.
i've just been busy in life and am trying to rebuild, or should i say, make new friendships but it is slow-going.
missinglink and i haven't been to any meetings since april and have no plans in going back.
Hi Switch
I can soooo relate, Hang in there.
DoubleVision
why is today the only day of the year when i feel guilty about having left the jws?
it's memorial day and i didn't go.
my last memorial was in 2006. last year was my first non-attendance.
And He Ran,
This is my first year I've missed the M-day.
Try to keep focus on what the WTS has done to thousands of peoples lives.
I feel the same as Layinglow.
I don't want to support this Org one moment longer.
Thanks for everyones thoughts here, it really helps.
DV
considering any religious presumption to be that we have fallen from perfection, is it realistic to expect an imperfect memeber of our speceis to fare any better than a perfect one who failed initially?.
considering the often added feature of multiple deceptions and the rampant claim of an evil superpower who tricks what we see as truth in an angel of light format, can it seriously be expected that we have the mental wherewithall to accurately decipher truth from lies and also cope with all our biological urges often branded evil?.
or is the truth that our biology is perfectly natural and our preoccupation with 'holy' in fact even dirties natural and beautiful gifts?
R.crusoe said
Watching and working ones own reality is difficult enough without stepping into anothers maze of mirrors and transparent prison cells of morality.
I agree, this is why we probably search for answers to cope with life’s reality. Then we stumble across brother so-n-so who
tells you that he has all the answers right in this little publication and the transparent prison starts to take shape.
This is why IMO some people are so angry at the WTS when they realize they have been fooled by the maze of mirrors.
DV
the elder giving the public talk a couple of weeks ago told the congregation that there are more and more.
movies and tv programs, like charmed, or books and movies like harry potter that must be avoided at all costs.
because they are a direct link to demonism and spiritism.
speaking in tongues !!
But, I thought ah ah ah.....never mine.
DV
the boy was about 7 years old.
' he looked at his son and didn't answer.
'can you shun this boy?
It sound's like you did great!! I'm glad you came on here to share.
It helps all of us. (((((hugs)))))
'My husband is a good, moral man, his big crime is no longer believing in your religion
I hope these words echo in his head.
DV
is the wts guilty of these scriptures: .
(matthew 24:23-27) 23 then if anyone says to you, look!
here is the christ, or, there!
Is the WTS guilty of these scriptures:
(Matthew 24:23-27) 23 “Then if anyone says to YOU, ‘Look! Here is the Christ,’ or, ‘There!’ do not believe it. 24 For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will give great signs and wonders so as to mislead, if possible, even the chosen ones. 25 Look! I have forewarned YOU. 26 Therefore, if people say to YOU, ‘Look! He is in the wilderness,’ do not go out; ‘Look! He is in the inner chambers,’ do not believe it. 27 For just as the lightning comes out of eastern parts and shines over to western parts, so the presence of the Son of man will be.
and
(Luke 17:22-24) 22 Then he said to the disciples: “Days will come when YOU will desire to see one of the days of the Son of man but YOU will not see [it]. 23 And people will say to YOU, ‘See there!’ or, ‘See here!’ Do not go out or chase after [them]. 24 For even as the lightning, by its flashing, shines from one part under heaven to another part under heaven, so the Son of man will be………….30 The same way it will be on that day when the Son of man is to be revealed.
I believe so. What do you lurkers believe?
notice this: *** w81 12/1 p. 5 Could Christ Return Without Being Seen? ***
“If anyone says to you, ‘Look! Here is the Christ,’ or, ‘There!’ do not believe it. For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will give great signs and wonders so as to mislead, if possible, even the chosen ones. Look! I have forewarned you.” (Matt. 24:23-25) This indicates that Christ’s presence will not be visible at this or at that geographical location. Therefore, those claiming to be the returned Christ, or to have seen him “here” or “there,” are either deluded or frauds.
indicates that Christ’s presence will not be visible
HOW SO?
Read Mathew 24:26 and it describes those who claim he has returned to be
in the wilderness out of sight and the inner chambers, again out of sight.
DV
my mother has brought up this issue a few times lately and i'm a bit confused.
actually she says she's confused about it and doesn't know what to believe; that what she reads in the bible contradicts what the elders say.. she said that if you die before armegeddon you become an angel, so i assume that they will never marry or have children?
if you and your current spouse both survive armegeddon you continue to be married and have children?.
otwo "bounce beach balls off of elephants" now that there is funny !
thank you pauly for the clear understanding of paradise, but most of
us here have many, many years of the JW thing.
You may want to reevaluate your thoughts about what
websites you view.
DV
i was told not to even look at them when i studied, but i did not buy the satan stuff about them and said well what have the watchtower got to worry about if they have the truth and no skeletons in the closet ?
i was quite tempted to speak to them and felt rude and judgemental , what did you used to think about them when you were dubs in the trufff ?
I always thought that they were there because they got df’ed
and were protesting about it.
Now I have respect for them. It takes guts to do something like
that. I can see why one might want to do it.
They probably felt sorry for us being enslaved to an organization and
robed of Christ our only salvation.
Or maybe they had family that they lost to this org and it’s blood policy.
and wanted to help others not to go through the same thing they did.
I wonder has anyone here ever stood out in front of an assembly with a sign
with a message to the JW’s?
DV
i'd say she'd make it real big with jim bakker.
and she'd likely be very welcomed into the amish community.
i remember all the single brothers were looking for girls that looked like her who were virgin elder's daughters.
Damn,I think my sacred pole needs some attention.
DV
as i was browsing the study guide i came across page 31 of the scriptural questions answers.
10:18= what was jesus referring to when he told the 70 disciples: "i began to behodl satan already fallen like lightning from heaven"?
the response was jesus was not stating that satan had already been ousted from heaven.
Alther we cannot be dogmattic
Really........Since when is WBTS not Dogmatic?
DV