Granny Grace, you are feisty just like my own granny, but you've had the courage to make a break from the Tower, and she's still in. She's very old now (95) and has no will to leave now tho she's not stupid. Good for you- you've helped so many and shown us life is good when we break free! There's lots more work for you to do so don't go yet!
Virgochik
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Hey! Mouthy Just Said She's Going To The Hospital!!!
by Yizuman inhttp://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/177475/2/wanted-a-hearing-seeing-walking-man-older-than-82-for-mouthy.
look at her last comment.. let's hope and pray she's ok!.
yiz.
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Shocker! Watchtower says DON'T share experiences with demons..."it's promoting Satan!!"
by Witness 007 inan incredible turn around when you see the watchtower index full of demonic handbags, houses, idols etc.
etc.. the new bookstudy book "keep yourselves in god's love.
" p.191 was a shocker for me!
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When I was still living at hme, I got a sinus infection with miserable headaches. A girl from work had innocently stopped by the house to bring me a small Christmas gift. This went over like a lead balloon with my parents, who soon decided my headaches were caused by the "demonized" gift. Oddly, after my doctor appointment and my script for antibiotics cleared up the headaches, they didn't want to talk about the trinket they'd made me throw out. Such superstitious people!
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Things that Annoy Me in Grocery Stores - How About You ?
by flipper ini do a lot of the grocery shopping for my wife and myself as we live out in the mountains and i stop on the way home from working early morning hours.
there are some things that just drive me bat-$hit crazy sometimes .
i'll name a few- you carry it from there !
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I get aggravated by the severly obese who whirr up behind you in their fatmobiles. I had one motion for me to get out of his way, "Coming through!" He urgently needed to reach for his chips and soda. I can't help thinking they'd be healthier if they got out and walked a bit to the fresh fruit aisle, sigh. However, this is a politically incorrect attitude. I need to accomodate these motorized -oversized as they rush to the ice cream freezer.
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Have you forgiven your parents for bringing you up in the JW cult?
by Gayle ini had to sort through that for some years ago.
i concluded my parents were victims of the watchtower society too.
dad was a prisoner of war, under nazis at 19 yrs of age, almost died there due to no medicines or antibiotics and lost almost half his weight, his nerves were shot and he was drawn to the jws promise of a new world without war.
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Yes, and no. They were simple, uneducated young people who got reeled in and raised their child as they felt was the right way. I feel sorry that happened to them, for they're good hearted. But they're older and shouldn't they be smarter now? Yet they still preach and plead with me to "return." That's the no part. In spite of everything we know now, they still want to pull me back in. Disgusting.
I imagine we have alot in common, my parents and me. Love, and frustration at the same time.
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"Commenting" at Meetings
by cameo-d ini don't quite understand why you call it commenting.. when i attended meeting the question at end were read.. when people "commented" it was never a real comment.. it was just reading back word for word a sentence or two from the paragraph that answered the question.. i would think "commentary" would be something you put in your own words and give a personal statement about it.. .
why do you call it "comments" when it is more like reciting?.
or is it different in other kh?.
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Whatever you call it, all I know is if you were an elder's kid, your father was so proud if you did it and there was hell to pay if you didn't! Before the meeting, you were pressured to commit to raising your hand for specific paragraphs. You had to rehearse your answer in the car on the way to the meeting, like it took profound thought. Yuck. There was the urgent jab in the ribs from mother's elbow warning of your upcoming "comment." It was a huge embarrassment for the elder if his kid didn't comment and I tried to never do it. It was such a farce. You'd raise your hand and microphone boy scurried over so you could read a couple sentences from the Witchtower. Conductor: "How, then, should young ones feel when pressured to comment on crapola from the Faithful Slave?" (Smirking) "Yes, let's hear from Little Missy Virgochik who has volunteered to comment!" No I didn't! It was the bony elbow, the dirty looks and the threat of disapproval and scowling for days if I didn't. Better to get it over with! Ah, the memories.
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This is totally disgusting and caused my teenage rebellion as an elder's daughter. My dad warned me I'd never get a husband with my attitude, My retort was, good! I don't want one anyways! Now I'm married, and sometimes my husband and I fight like cats and dogs, but nobody is the boss of the other. We wouldn't have it any other way. We're no 1950's couple, like Lucy and Ricky. Honestly, my mother really did scamper to the door in her gingham apron to greet dad when he came home from work. It made me want to hurl then, and I sure can't see how any 2009 woman can go along with this crap. Yuck!
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Has anyone done the WT comments this week (They Keep Following the Lamb)?
by Mickey mouse inhas anyone done the wt comments this week?
today's wt was a classic!
does anyone have a pdf of it?
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Blondie, thank you for working on this for us in spite of your emergency! It's much appreciated.
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Mindful Eating
by rebel8 inhave you read this book?
mindful eating: a guide to rediscovering a healthy and joyful relationship with food (paperback), by jan chozen bays (author).
mr. rebel8 and i are reading it right now to eat healthier.
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I had trouble keeping weight ON as a Elder's Daughter Perfect Example Kid, lol. As a teen, I was so nervous being perfect and hating the meetings that I felt like throwing up all the time.
I like Stevia the best. It's super sweet, so a little bit in tea or coffee (1/3 of a packet) goes a long way. I haven't noticed a wierd after taste with Stevia, but I really do with Splenda. You can get used to it fairly quickly if you want to. Moderation is the ticket with anything, but these sweeteners help while weaning away from sugar.
I went on Adkins over four years ago and lost and have still kept off 35 pounds. Stevia and Splenda gave me a boost in the beginning. Now I've modified my diet to just eat healthy and in modest portions. I wear size 4 or 6 and I feel great! I can't really stomach sugary desserts now because I'm not used to them.
My splurge is a glass of Shiraz or Chianti with cheese and crackers before bed. Gotta enjoy life!
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Mindful Eating
by rebel8 inhave you read this book?
mindful eating: a guide to rediscovering a healthy and joyful relationship with food (paperback), by jan chozen bays (author).
mr. rebel8 and i are reading it right now to eat healthier.
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I was successful weaning myself away from sweets by substituting Splenda or Stevia. It was almost like a withdrawal from drugs or something for a few days. Once the sugar craving is out of your system, you really don't miss it. There are so many things available now with Splenda, even ice creams and chocolates.
You'll feel so much better without the ups and downs sugar causes. Hope it goes well!
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Were your parents control freaks?
by Dustin ingrowing up in the jw religion and having a dad who was an elder, i remember how controlling they were.
i find it amazing now just how much of my childhood i missed out on.
i couldn't watch alot of t.v.
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My Dad was a congregation servant and then an elder the whole time I was growing up. I had to be inspected before every meeting to make sure my hose didn't have runs, my skirt wasn't too short, shoes were OK, hair was OK, I had my Bible/songbook/bookbag or whatever all ready so I could be a good example. He did this outside, by the car so the neighbors could see. I had to turn a complete circle to be looked over.
I don't know if he was ignorant, or what, but one time I had a zit on my chin since I was a teenager. He asked me what the thing was on my face and I had to explain it. A teenage chick's already embarassed about having a zit on her face so obviously, here I am 50 years old and still remembering how this made me feel.
When I got to be about 17 they started inviting "suitable brothers" over to the house for lunch after the Watchtower study. I guess they decided it was time for me to get married. Needless to say, I got a crummy job and an apartment and got the hell away from them as soon as possible. I never dated any of their picks.
Sometimes I still lay in bed before work in the morning and just remember things, like how my Mother made my clothes until I just flat out refused to wear them in junior high school. I realize now how naive and uneducated and inexperienced they were, and what a wierd childhood I had being raised by these two odd people. They meant well, I do believe, but they have no idea what memories I still carry and how narrowminded they were and how many opportunities they denied me. I did have a few talents but when my teachers approached them about college or joining band or language clubs and they always decided for me. "Virgochik wants to put Jehoveh's interests first in her life, thank you anyway. She won't be participating in any after school clubs."
I have days still when I'm really angry, and days when I just feel sorry for them. They haven't changed much, still narrowminded and stuck in the mud. They've got no interest in learning to text message, or sending emails, for example. I just have to shake my head and move on. Well, I try to move on, but we still have those random memories crop up, don't we?