Witlesses can't openly challenge what they hear. They'd risk getting da'd or df'd. So, they "murmur amongst themselves" and that creates a whole new headache for Crooklyn. It must be much more destructive, because the private murmuring can't be addressed, and explained away, like openly questioning could be.
Virgochik
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WERE THERE ANY `YOU CAN'T BE SERIOUS,MAN' moments in KH
by badboy indid something say something like that po who said`cats represent the beast' so you shouldn't stroke them'
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When You Think About It----Jehovah's Witneses Are Just Weird!
by minimus inthe more i dwell on it, the more embarassed i am that i was ever a witness.
jws make big deals about nuthin'.
you can't say "bless you" if someone sneezes.
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You can't celebrate Christ's birth, or Mother's and Father's Day. Women must wear skirts or dresses even if their legs get frostbite! Men can't have beards, even tho Jesus did. God needs the Dubs to turn in a time card every month, guess he can't see for himself whether they went door pestering or not, and there is a minimum quota he expects! And sooo much more!
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Are you embarrassed?
by desib77 indoes anyone else find themselves embarrassed about their jw past?
i find that when people that know what i used to be ask me about it i am completely embarrassed by how foolish their beliefs sound especially things like the blood issue.
i can't stand when someone will say "why did you believe such and such....?
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I'm very embar-assed! The only time I mention it is when the Dubs at work act all flaky and people are complaining about them. I can pretty much explain their behavior by saying I was raised in that religion, and this iswhy they say or do wacko things. But I could crawl under the sidewalk when people stare and say, "Ew, YOU were in that? Aren't you smarter than to fall for that crap?" It makes people think you aren't too smart, and that's embarassing.
We "born-ins" have the good excuse that we had no choice, lol!
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Higher Education: Is The Issue Really That Important?
by Warlock inthe catholics think they have the true religion, but they don't discourage higher education.. the protestants think they have the true religion, but they don't discourage higher education.. the j.w.
's think they have the true religion, but yet they do discourage higher education.. why?
do they really think there would be a mass exodus from the org.
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The JW's have something to hide!
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The New "Invite" - How Stupid Can They Be?
by metatron inwhile traveling down thru new england, i happened across one of the new district convention "invites".. how dumb can the watchtower society get?
for the moment, let's ignore the fact that they expect people to drop everything.
within a radius of one, two or even three hundred miles and attend an inner city convention over a weekend.
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I think they shot themselves in the foot with the artwork! It is just so fake looking, I doubt if the general public can relate to it. Look at the couples: A black family, and a white couple. How many today are mixed race? Is there a point being made, or is the picture so old, mixed marriages weren't common when it was done? And the sweater on the black man, very old fashioned, as are the 50's style dresses/skirts on the women. I really don't think anyone under 105 will find this appealing and scurry off to the convention site, which is shown absolutely packed in the picture. This is a very cultish looking production, and won't get them far.
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My 19 year old "DF'd" niece tried to "kill" herself over a "married man"
by booker-t ina while back i mentioned on a post that my 19 year old niece was "df'd" for having an affair with a married man.
she is "obsessed" with this guy.
he is a guy at her job and he is in his 40's with a wife and three kids.
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You must take her in right away and give her a safe, warm comfortable place to heal herself with dignity. If you don't rescue her, she will surely kill herself. Years from now, you'll all be so glad you saved her life. How would you feel if you don't help her, just to keep your brother happy, and she doesn't make it? You sound very caring and she needs that so bad right now, just a place to get back on her feet till she gets her wings again.
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Do you have to be "gullible" in order to be a good JW?
by JH inin french we use the word "naif", which means to believe anything that's said without proof of it being true.
i think that gullible is the english translation.. i was very gullible in my early jw years.
i guess it's not faith that one needs to be a good jw, but gullibility...
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And, "gullible" isn't always a bad thing... I think it means you're trusting of others, that they mean well and that most people are good. It means believing the best of others, seeing the glass as half full, having a big heart and not always being suspicious. So basically, gullible people are often very big hearted people who become taken advantage of by those who play upon their warmth and generosity.
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The New "Invite" - How Stupid Can They Be?
by metatron inwhile traveling down thru new england, i happened across one of the new district convention "invites".. how dumb can the watchtower society get?
for the moment, let's ignore the fact that they expect people to drop everything.
within a radius of one, two or even three hundred miles and attend an inner city convention over a weekend.
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When I came back from a quick trip to the store Tuesday, my husband laughed and said I'd missed the Witlesses working our street. The sister was working one side and the brother was working the opposite side. He said she offered him a tract inviting him to something but he didn't accept it. He had the impression it was for a convention. Wonder why they're not in pairs? Ours is a quiet neighborhood, but isn't this unusual?
I told him, next time take the, tract so I can describe it on the board, lol!
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Do you have to be "gullible" in order to be a good JW?
by JH inin french we use the word "naif", which means to believe anything that's said without proof of it being true.
i think that gullible is the english translation.. i was very gullible in my early jw years.
i guess it's not faith that one needs to be a good jw, but gullibility...
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You would definitely have to be gullible, naive, vulnerable, or lonely. Or all of these. My dear Mother is a sweet, gullible woman who immediately believes everything she reads in the newspaper, or any magazine. If she reads about a new health fad, vitamin or herb, she tries it right away, because she read it will do wonders for you! Imagine what putty she is if it's printed in the Watchtower!She lives in her own innocent little world and does not really want to know the truth about the truth. She grew up a naive, lonely farm girl, teased in school, and the Dubs made her feel special. She soaked it up like a sponge, even when they convinced her letting her Mother die from refusing blood was the right thing to do. After an investment like that, she seems to have her feet stuck in Watchtower cement, so to speak. So sad, and frustrating.
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Try to make it to your meetings!
by moomanchu in.
keep trying to get to your meetings remember the sister who walked 2 hours one way to feast at the spiritual banquet , or the bro who crossed crocodile infested waters to get to his meeting.. anyone remember any other guilt trip inducing illustrations?
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We had a sister with two little girls at our Hall. Her husband was Native American and struggled with alcoholism. They were really poor, and it pained me to see the little girls in rags, while Sister S. scraped up money for the circus ass-embly in Chicago. Invariably, her car would break down in a scary neighborhood. She used to call my dad, an elder, late at night sometimes to say Mr. S. was beating her. My dad used to sigh and tell her to call back if she needed him to come over. Never did he advise her to call the police. Mr. S. was usually mad about her going to the meetings, but that was her "obstacle" she endured for Jehoopla.