the co has said in his latest talks "some have lost their sense of urgency and the organization is worried about it" .
even in the apostles day there was a a sense of urgency
Its difficult to inspire a sense of urgency about God's Kingdom when you spent the last 15 years making sure we were all up to date on the "UN programmes and activities".
What is urgent about the WT is to "get out of her my people if you do not want to share in her plagues".
Uninformed
i was involved in several, starting when i was about 10 or 11 with jobs like sweeping up sawdust or picking up loose nails.
i loved it.
once, when i was about 22 we were building the kh south of santa barbara in carpinteria.
LDH,
Damn, I can't even surrender.
By the way, in George Orwell's Animal Farm, there was a quote similar to that, "all the animals are equal, but the pigs are more equal". Probably came from your quote.
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i was involved in several, starting when i was about 10 or 11 with jobs like sweeping up sawdust or picking up loose nails.
i loved it.
once, when i was about 22 we were building the kh south of santa barbara in carpinteria.
LDH and Cellist,
I will concede to both of you that you are both correct in being offended not just by the abuses but by the WT touting that it is a volunteer effort.
For the record, "I am not a crook" to quote Richard M. Nixon, and I never got a cent from them for myself or any equipment I ever brought. Honest.
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dozy seems to be okay with the un deal.
i've got some relatively simple questions that i would like answered from the bible, by dozy!
if dozy has enough faith to do it.. i would like to see one verse from the bible that actually says jesus & michael the archangel are one and the same.
Whyzit Wrote:
; To everyone else, great food for thought! ; You asked questions I hadn't thought of and made some great points. ; To the people who are sticking up for Dozy and have compassion for where he is at on his religious journey, GOOD FOR YOU! ; I'm happy to know that you are out there. ; You've come a long way and are better people for it. ; God bless you!
;
Whyzit, I appreciate your response, and I agree that your approach is probably better.
I guess that the UN--WT AFFAIR rattled my cage so hard that I can't see how anyone can't see it too. Hope I didn't offend. Didn't mean to.
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here it is, the whole episode: .
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ssj9gc36bw8&search=scientology.
...it`s one of the funniest sout-park-episodes ever, i laughed till i dropped.
LRH
Thanks, good post.
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dozy seems to be okay with the un deal.
i've got some relatively simple questions that i would like answered from the bible, by dozy!
if dozy has enough faith to do it.. i would like to see one verse from the bible that actually says jesus & michael the archangel are one and the same.
Legolas--you're at the nub of the issue, stick with him.
Auldsoul, Excellent.
Dozy--Are you out of your mind? If you disagree with the WT on some points but not on the UN "affair" you must be touched. This is the most hypocritical act they have ever performed. They condemned others for the same thing they did.
You apologists are just here counting time on us. I would love to send your posts to the service desk or your local boe. See how smart you were then.
I will admit, you have the right to worship any idol you want to.
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gathering things in heaven and things on earth.
the christ, the things in the heavens and the things on the earth.
" (1 corinthians 10:16) in what way do those partaking of the wine `share in the blood of the christ'?
dozy and scout,
I want you guys to know how much I value your posts!!@!
In fact, I think you are in for commendation.
Please send me your name, address, congregation and I will make sure that I inform the Body of Elders what a fantastic job you guys are doing in fighting apostasy!!
I am sure they will be besides themselves with joy having this information, and a probably promotion in the congregation will be in your futures.
By the way, I wonder if you could give me your thoughts on the Bible verse that says, "a little leaven ferments the whole lump"?
What about Matthew 23, where it states, "The scribes and the Pharisees have seated THEMSELVES in the seat of Moses. Therefore all the things they tell you, do and observe, but do not do according to their deeds, for they say but do not perform. They bind up heavy loads and put them upon the shoulders of mankind, but they themselvees are not willing to budge them with their finger......Woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!"
Looking forward to your comments and your contact information.
Uninformed
i'm totally amazed.
i gave that un report to my (hardcore jw to the extreme max, but in a nice way) aunt, and she didn't speak of it for several days.
when she said nothing, i knew i'd gotten somewhere.. today she finally spoke up.
Dozy,
In my haste to post a while ago, I included you in a short list of "poztates". I want to apologize for the oversight.
I wonder if you would mind supplying your name and address and your congregation to me so that I can write your Body Of Elders and tell them what a fantastic job you are doing defending the WT's dalliance with the UN?
i'm totally amazed.
i gave that un report to my (hardcore jw to the extreme max, but in a nice way) aunt, and she didn't speak of it for several days.
when she said nothing, i knew i'd gotten somewhere.. today she finally spoke up.
swalker, kaput, blondie, honesty et.al,
My wife and I personally want to thank you guys for being so on top of this issue. If we can see the WT now more clearly than ever before it is because we are standing on the shoulders of giants. (little plagerism there).
We sincerely mean it though. I took my "pen name" ---uninformed-- from what you guys did for us--UN--Informed.
While we had developed a 20 year and more long dissatisfaction with the WT, it was the UN deal and your posts and the web links that became the final straw (more like a truckload of straw) that broke our back.
The WT finally became to us a filthy, lying, whore. A whore that uses her victims and then throws them away. A whore that disfellowships people for catching her having immoral intercourse.
How many ways can you say filthy?
Brant and Karen Jones
Kansas City, Kansas
I got this one off this discussion forum the other day! I thought it was great. Sorry couldn't figure out how to do it. \ u
