tws= theocratic warfare strategy.
jehovahs witnesses are taught that it is ok to lie, if it in someway helps to support their organization, or helps to deflect criticism of it.. .
jehovah's witnesses are known to give appearances that they are normal, just like the average american.
They have the same kind of brain washing sessions that jw's have.
The Bible study, the charts, and the weeks and months to convert.
They are another cult, probably as bad or worse than jw's. Only thing different is they are smarter, they send their kids to college so that they can tithe with more money.
Avoid them like you would any cult.
Brant
i've been around for awhile, but never registered for fear of giving my personal information (yes, that's how much the borg scares me.
i was raised in the org, and left when i was 18. i realized that every religion firmly believed that they were correct, and that forced me to re-evaluate the religion on its merits, as opposed to my insistent belief.
needless to say, i saw the man behind the curtain.
Deliah,
Your story was very touching. I hope you enjoy being here.
Your account really demonstrates how much love is really in that organization.
They don't know the difference between kindness and a hole in the ground.
Brant
this may seem like a shameless plug for www.freeminds.org.
but it's not.. randy has been a source of significant information for me (and countless others) over the last decade(s), and very recently sent me (at his expense) some additional information about the wts.. now, one thing i must say is that randy and i do not share the same ideologies about religious perspectives.
but, ya know what?
Randy is one of the stepping stones to cross the river of religious deceit.
u
there are 2 elders in my cousins congregation who are partners in a construction business.
they buy land,build huge homes,live there,and sell 2 years later.
one of them sold his home last year for $860,000 .
THE DOUBLE STANDARD IS ALIVE AND WELL------------------------------
Brant
it took me a while to get thru this book and some of the print was really unclear to make out.
what struck me was the absolute mean spiritedness of the borg toward these brothers who gave their whole lives to the borg.
it also reinforces my experience that once they "make a decision" they will not be disuaded by biblical facts.
Folks,
You can buy the books direct from Franz and his wife at the following site:
http://www.commentarypress.com/
I imagine they make a little extra money if they sell direct rather than through Amazon.
I have bought a number of the books and given them out, and the response is terrific! Most people really love the books. The books really help in the healing process as you begin to realize that you aren't stupid or evil for leaving. And that the organization is not worth fretting over.
By the way, the last set of books I ordered, I called the number of the Commentary Press and got to speak with both Brother and Sister Franz. I kept it short and just told them that they were loved and appreciated. I really mean that!
Brant
this is the third elder that tells me that the body of elders will recommend me as an elder in the next visit of the co.. what do you think i should do?
some facts:.
i am still 'in' because of my family.i am ms.i am doing 10+ fake hours (well, some months it is fake), so they see my "spiritual" progress.-ootb.
I was an elder for over 30 years, but I was a sincere hard-working one and I loved the brotherhood, and sadly, I believed it was God's Organization. Those are the only reasons I would ever have served.
There are enough people on the 'inside' that can get info to all of us while they are on their way out, without you putting yourself in such a dishonest situation. Don't do it for me.
Additionally, you think now that you might be able to help someone, with the inference being that you will help point out that the WT is a lie. Well, maybe, but I think people don't listen. They either believe or they don't. They either go for the reason they believe or for social and family reasons. You aren't Jesus Christ, and you aren't going to save anyone.
A fine example in leaving would be the best witness you could give, and you could unload all that dissonance.
Brant
a 14 year old can refuse a blood transfusion.
this is against the wishes of his parents.. http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/6420ap_wa_jehovahs_witness_transfusion.html.
judge: 14-year-old jehovah's witness can refuse blood transfusionthe associated press.
Toth you wrote:
Jehovah's Witnesses claim Jesus is their model, but Jesus would most certainly allow blood transfusions to save human lives. The Sabbath law was just as binding upon the Jews as the law concerning blood. Showing that such laws could and should be disobeyed if a human life is at stake, Jesus said: "Who will be the man among you that has one sheep and, if this falls into a pit on the sabbath, will not get hold of it and lift it out? All considered, of how much more worth is a man than a sheep! So it is lawful to do a fine thing on the sabbath." (Matthew 12:11, 12) "And he said to them: 'Who of you, if his son or bull falls into a well, will not immediately pull him out on the sabbath day?' And they were not able to answer back on these things." (Luke 14:5, 6) The leaders of Jehovah's Witnesses will likewise be speechless on Judgment Day when Jesus confronts them about their evil ban on blood transfusions even when human lives are in danger.
Darn good point!! One other point--They are just so f--king inconsistent with this whole issue. Brant
watchtower farms plans millions in expansionhttp://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?aid=/20071129/news/711290360
Are they preparing for a new Jonestown?
momz
I will certainly bring the grape kool-aid.
Brant
seems a 54 year old british school teacher who is teaching grammer school classes in the sudan has committed a despicable act by blastpheming and showing no respect for the prophet!
can you believe it; she actually allowed the children in her class to name a teddy bear being used in a class project muhammad!!
the sudanise government, carrying out its god given duty is putting her on trial.
BREAKING NEWS: The teacher is being deported from Sudan, without the lashes. They gave her 15 days (which she already served) and deportation. I think EVERY western teacher and laborer should leave and let them all rot in their ignorant "bliss".
I was happy to see this! Been watching for the outcome but missed---Thanks
Islam makes me think in terms of nukes.
u
friends,.
i just confirmed the "generation" change from another forum in portuguese.
the following is the text in portuguese:.
another fine serving of shit in due season.
Brant
