Jesus were not created. He was beggotten and it happenned in Jesus Christ's birth at Bethlem.
Shazard
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When was Jesus Christ Created?
by renando_stimpy ini was thinking about this today and was wondering what the wts has to say about such things ?.
isaiah 43:10 : ... before me no god was formed nor will there be one after me.... john 1:1 (nwt): ... the word was a god .... john 1:2 : ... he was with god in the beginning .... if no god would ever be formed before and no god would be formed after, when was jesus christ ( a mighty god - isa 9:6 ) formed ?
i think the bible makes itself quite clear regarding time, first and last, alpha and omega, beginning and end, before and after, morning and evening etc.. so i would think that saying god is not within a form of time albiet a different time to ours (days = years) wouldn't hold water when compared to the scriptures... rev 1:17 - ... do not be afraid.
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Bunch of questions I have been storing up..can anyone help?
by The Dragon in1. what is to be gained by punishing someone beyond repentance?.
2. who is in more trouble and needing forgiveness?
people astray..or the ones who led them astray?.
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Shazard
One Simple Answer... Does breaking bones when U jump from roof makes Newton right?
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don't any of you get afraid??
by nowisee inall of the stuff re wts.
yet with all of this stuff happening in the mideast....with al gore's "an inconvenient truth" and scientists backing him up...with nkorea....with "christian" rhetoric....with pornography taking over the minds of our men.....bird flu....debt up to the eyeballs....complacency....pacs.....enron...corruption...serial killers in phoenix.....shrinking dollar....economy being sold to overseas.....etc.
can anyone reassure me?
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Shazard
For fear is nought but the surrender of the helps that come from reason; (Wisdom of Solomon 17:12)
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?? The gospel accounts read entirely different regarding the resurection??
by Lady Liberty inlast night i recieved a call from my sister and she told me to compare the last chapters of each gospel regarding the resurection of jesus.
she said she was blown away to read that they all had drastic differences.
i haven't had the time to compare this yet, but have any of you discovered this?
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Shazard
Wel I rather would doubt story if 4 different authors of the same event would describe it identically. Wouldn't you?
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How to Quit Church Without Quitting God: 7 Good Reasons to Escape the Box
by yaddayadda infound the above titled book while surfing amazon.
looks worth a read, might buy.
anyone here read it?
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Shazard
What is meant by "church" here? :)
Coz Una Sancta by definition are those who are in union with God. Church is only another word for those who are with God. -
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How Does the WT Explain this verse
by XBEHERE in(john 2:18-22) 18 therefore, in answer, the jews said to him: "what sign have you to show us, since you are doing these things?
" 19 in answer jesus said to them: "break down this temple, and in three days i will raise it up.
" 20 therefore the jews said: "this temple was built in forty-six years, and will you raise it up in three days?
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Shazard
And so if Jesus rised himself, and God rised Jesus, so Jesus is God :) It is like 2+2
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WTS NO HIGHER EDUCATION dumb dub
by DannyHaszard inhigh cierra: teen scores best-ever ib mark at bhs
royal gazette, bermuda - 4 hours ago .
... cierra, a jehovahs witness who was named the islands outstanding teen 2006 earlier this year, does not intend to go to university but will instead carry ...
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Shazard
If JW can gain so high results and still be JW then I doubt quality of the tests. You should add several logic tests in these tests then JW will not be able to pass :) If so brilliant ppl don't see the fallacy of the cult, then there is something wrong with the picture.
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a question
by pallemar inwhat part of the bible, goes against, wathtower doctrins?
i can gues, here is a lot.
is here a homepage with it?
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Shazard
I think Hebrews, John and Luke. Hebrews 1-2 throws away their doctrine of Jesus = Angel and reclaims that he is Creator of the World. John teaches exactly that Jesus is God by nature. Luke is nice to show Christ's bodily ressurection and his talk to Moses and Eliah - so dead are not Dead!
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DeIndoctrination
by Shazard inwhat about using wt tactics against them?
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how to attract jw and keep them long enough to get chances to reach their mind and plant seeds of doubt about wt?
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Shazard
Thankyou!
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DeIndoctrination
by Shazard inwhat about using wt tactics against them?
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how to attract jw and keep them long enough to get chances to reach their mind and plant seeds of doubt about wt?
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Shazard
But somehow YOU got out. How should "apostates" act to get you out faster! What should other christians or just normal ppl do in your time to get your attention and get truth about "truth" faster in your mind in times when you were JW?