I joined over 7 years before I could make a post.
I just wanted it so badly to be The Truth.
i visited this site about 2 years after leaving?.
when did you first visit jwn?.
paul.
I joined over 7 years before I could make a post.
I just wanted it so badly to be The Truth.
my jw mother drives me nuts.
she lives in quite a cut-off part of the uk and this year, is expected to travel to hq (rugbyfans), aka twickenham.
she's great to make the trip, it's like a spiritual holiday for her.. i said i thought it ridiculous and unreasonable for the gb to expect people to travel that far and pay for accommodation near london.
A LOT of UK Witnesses are unhappy about this.
Everyone I know has groaned about going to Twicks on the bank holiday weekend. Friday and Sunday will be a bitch on the roads.
My in-laws are going to Twicks from the South coast. Each day on a coach (no accom for them). So they have to get at god knows what o'clock, and go to a nearby town. Get on the bus (6am I think) and then sit on that to Twicks. The repeat home. They hope to be home by 10pm...for each day!
My mother is in North Essex and I understand they're assigned to Twicks too. After going to a local football stadium for a few years. They've also got a hell journey for 3 days.
So cue lots of cheesed of Jay Dubs.
Happifying indeed!
this is interesting.. the apostasy project is by the rationalist association and is helping those who wish to leave their religion do so:.
http://apostasy.org.uk/.
direct link to their video:.
This is interesting.
The Apostasy Project is by the Rationalist Association and is helping those who wish to leave their religion do so:
Direct link to their video:
JW's mentioned in the article. Wonderful to see such help starting up.
lots of leaflet campaigns this year.. 1. leaflet campaign to invite people to the memorial.
2. district convention invitations.. 3. campaign to advertise jw.org in august.. .
doesn't leave much time for conversations..
Keep 'em busy.
Then when the reports are tallied up 2014 can be hailed as a significant year of theocractic activity.
Thus we can be sure that we've pleased our heavenly father in the 100th anniversary year of his son taking the throne and expelling the Great Apostate Satan from heaven...
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Time obsessed little cult.
Actually, thinking about it, does this mean the 8 Who Rule are Time Lords?
i'm free- i'm free,.
and freedom tastes of reality,.
i'm free-i'm free,.
Brilliant!
I love that album. I love even more the 1975(!) movie soundtrack album (you need a Spotify account for these):
Another great track from that album is:
Roger Daltrey – We're Not Gonna Take It
The lyrics are interesting..
These pricey deals don't teach us.
Your freedom doesn't reach us.
Enlightenment escapes us.
Awareness doesn't shape us.
How can all this trivia take us to the goal you reached?
We came here to be like you, to find the world you preach.
and also:
We're not gonna take it
We're not gonna take it
We're not gonna take it
We're not gonna take it
We're not gonna take it
Never did and never will
Don't want no religion
And as far as we can tell
We ain't gonna take you
Never did and never will
We forsake you
Gonna rape you
Let's forget you better still
zbigniew bryezinski -- national security advisor carter administration.
without ukraine russia ceases to be empire, while with ukraine - bought off first and subdued afterwards, it automatically turns into empire...according to him, the new world order under the hegemony of the united states is created against russia and on the fragments of russia.
ukraine is the western outpost to prevent the recreation of the soviet union.
Nothing will happen.
Stuff will happen. Of course it will. That's human beings for you. But nothing to do with the Watchtower!
jw's are suckers.. they got fooled.. they devoted their life to a fraud.. they have been ambiently abused.. they have been used for the money.. they are stuck in a sick mindset.. with sick people.. in a sick temple.. and (the real estate fraud) makes money off the sickness.. i say run away fast.. get your family.. get your friends.. get your kids.. run as fast as you can.. don't look back.. eventually you will heal.. eventually..
Nobody cares.
about ambient abuse, but that doesn't stop obsessives wittering on about it.
i think the jw comfort for the brokenhearted facebook page needs a few more well placed comments from the other side.
i see that a lot of jw's i know have friended this site.. the poem below is one of their offerings.. .
https://www.facebook.com/pages/comfort-for-the-brokenhearted/344767848880643.
we all know sales are dropping in money recieved from printing literature and that it must have been a money drain for quite some time now at least from the time they went to a completely free literature offer to avoid paying ceaser's things to ceaser, so that now the next big finacial move is thru real estate flipping and capitalizing of the jw work force thru slave labor working conditions.. could these lawsuits bring them to the breaking point finacially i know there are a lot of nay sayers among us, but what say you and what is your gut feeling on this one?.
Whilst it is unlikely to bankrupt them, it does depend on:
a) How many child abuse victims there are
b) How many come forward and sue
If there were 1,000s that came forward, and were awarded Candace Conti type pay outs, then yes it could do. Lets say 1,000 cases get awarded $10M each. Then that's $10BN.
I don't think the WT has that much stashed to one side.
as i grew up in the religion, i was a 10. i wanted to be made a "servant" because that was instilled in me from infancy.
i diligently studied ever piece of watchtower literature and defended my religion intensely.. when i got into my 30's, i started to see little cracks in the watchtower's surface but decided to "wait on jehovah".
then i started to research a little more critically and realized i couldn't defend the prophecies, the treatment of people and the hypocrisy that was becoming more obvious, that especially an elder can see.. it was a gradual thing---from a 10 to a zero!.
In the 80s as a teenager - 10
In the 90s as an reg aux pioneer - 10
In the 00s post Bethel - 4
2010 overlapping nonsense - 2
2013 - 0 (wife and I fade)