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  JWs and paganism

  by Super_Becka in

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  ok guys, i've been contemplating the world of the jws - which isn't an especially good idea because the more you think about it, the less sense it makes - and the whole "we don't do anything pagan" thing is really getting to me, just because it's so hypocritical.. so what i'm looking for is this - a list of any and all pagan practices that are just fine, according to wts rules and regulations.

  anything big or small that's not banned by the wts but clearly has pagan origins.. and to make myself clear, i'm not looking to argue, i'm not looking to irritate any of the jws we have lurking around here (sweetscholar comes to mind), i'm just looking for a list, plain and simple.. let me start:.

  ) windchimes.

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  Sacrificing children to the god Molech, I mean, NoBlood.
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  What is God's true organization he is using? if this not it, then point me

  by amommy in

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  i have been a jw all my life, my sister and i are now in our late twenties and are so unhappy and after desparate attempts to keep up meeting attendance are not spiritually motivated.

  we in last few weeks have found some very disturbing things in our search such as the un involvement.

  after research on these things and use of the wt library the society speaks for it's self on these issues calling the un the "disgusting thing" that the book of daniel spoke about(wt 85' para.

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  Welcome, amommy. I wish you well in this situation. I have had nearly the same conversation with members of my family. I just keep asking who, where, and how was the authority of the organization established? If they tell you 1919, you can easily point out what the organization was teaching in 1919. Ask if they know that you could be disfellowshipped for apostacy for practicing most of the things that were being taught at that time.

  And don't be thrown off by slave1111. He's our resident man-god and very entertaining. I am campaigning to be one of his apostles. Amen!!
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  What Assures U That Elders/Co's/ Gov.Body "Just Don't Get It"?

  by minimus in

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  metatron used that expression on a thread.

  what evidence do you have that the "organization" "just "doesn't get it"??

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  The fact that they teach that only Jehovah can read the heart and judge, and then turn around and use elders to judge people based on appearances.
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  2 elders came for a visit

  by Goldminer in

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  2. experiences

  at first i wasn't going to post this but i noticed a lot of people here have been getting visits from elders lately,all with pretty much the same results.. three months ago,my wife asked an elder if he could answer some of my questions.he offered to come over,which he did,to waste my time talking in circles to basic questions he couldn't answer from the bible.(i.e.

  where does the bible say god has an organization and uses a governing body to direct it?

  ) anyways,after 3 hours of proving his allegiance tot the wts and showing me his level of denial he said he would do more research on my questions and get back to me.one main question that night had been 607 bce.. last week he made arrangements with my wife to return with another elder.that day i decided,based on advice i got here,that i would not use any research notes,only the bible as final authority(unless we got into 607 since you need secular history to support dates).the discussion started on god's organization,and being that i'm not very good at these type of debates,it basically went in circles with one elder getting upset that i didn't believe that god has a visible organization.he kept asking me well,which religion has the truth then?

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  GaryBuss, that was a good post - I never once thought of that little tactic. I do not have any christmas decorations, but I have seen some of the witnesses cruising past my house the last couple of weeks. It didn't even occur to me why they might be doing so.
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  Do you view life differently since you quit the JW Org?

  by JH in

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  where are your priorities now?

  or do you just live life one day at a time, without worrying about anything.

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  Definitely. I am way less judgmental in the way I see others. that's been the biggest change for me.
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  2 elders came for a visit

  by Goldminer in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  at first i wasn't going to post this but i noticed a lot of people here have been getting visits from elders lately,all with pretty much the same results.. three months ago,my wife asked an elder if he could answer some of my questions.he offered to come over,which he did,to waste my time talking in circles to basic questions he couldn't answer from the bible.(i.e.

  where does the bible say god has an organization and uses a governing body to direct it?

  ) anyways,after 3 hours of proving his allegiance tot the wts and showing me his level of denial he said he would do more research on my questions and get back to me.one main question that night had been 607 bce.. last week he made arrangements with my wife to return with another elder.that day i decided,based on advice i got here,that i would not use any research notes,only the bible as final authority(unless we got into 607 since you need secular history to support dates).the discussion started on god's organization,and being that i'm not very good at these type of debates,it basically went in circles with one elder getting upset that i didn't believe that god has a visible organization.he kept asking me well,which religion has the truth then?

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  Scary, it seems to be happening everywhere. I am glad to be prepped by the info on this board. It seems that the big gun getting used is that question about believing God's visible organization. I am going to take the route of not offering one single answer to them. It seems like you did a good job, Goldminer. Even if she doesn't say it, your wife saw that they had no answers for you.
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  They made another run at me.

  by kilroy2 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was watching law and order last night at 10pm when the door bell rung.

  i was in my red long underwear and jumped up to put on my jeans went down stairs to answer the door, i always turn on the light and look thought the peeper to make sure charlie manson is not knocking, no manson but two of my local elders from the hall.

  i have not had any one from the hall take a run at me for at least a couple of years.

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  I like the way you said you would not do their work for them. Good job. I also live in fear of the elders showing up at my door. It's ridiculous. I am also considering moving far away so that I can be left alone. Keep us posted as to what happens.
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  Farewell to a friend.

  by wanderlustguy in

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  atypical

  I'm really sorry, man.
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  My "un"association letter

  by AuldSoul in

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  the name was suggested by someone who posts here, since it is not really a disassociation letter.

  here, for your criticism pleasure, is my "un"association letter..

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  atypical

  I like the legal threat idea. Maybe we should have someone with legal expertise give us an effective line to threaten the elders with. Has this been done, does anybody know? I personally would like to have some type of legal short and sweet to use if my local elders ever try to df me.
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  Profile of the New Awake!

  by Severus in

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  2. bible

  jw's now have the january awake!

  in hand.

  notice that there is no specific date, for the awake!

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  JoJo - you just made me laugh so hard I choked on my coffee!!