does anybody remember the old apostate guy they called mr. coffee?
back in the late 80s when i was at brooklyn he would dress in a suit, have a book bag, and come and stand in front of the 124 bldg or sometimes over by the towers hotel.
he'd easily put in auxillary pioneer hours.
Oh what fond memories! I would walk down to Bethel doing street work with my buddy and saw Coffee many a time. I remember we'd get these sandwiches at a nearby deli. One day I had a ham sandwich and he got on my case about it, not sure why though.
Isaac
i read sometime back that terry is finishing his book.
terry, wherever you are, i'm looking forward to reading it.
please make sure you make an ebook version.
Yes please let us know. I love your posts.
Isaac
media alert: press conference wednesday, july 31, 2013, 11:00 am .
civil lawsuit filed against ohio jehovahs witnesses congregation and national organizations by sexual abuse victim .
childhood victim suffered sexual abuse from congregational leader over a four year period .
BTTT.
Isaac
goatshapeddemons mention of chess being banned by jw's at one time was a new one to me.
it got me thinking.
they never corrected that did they?
Damn, that's why I fidn't learn chess! Let alone learn about sports. My Mom took all of this stuff super serious. I learning now how to play chess and sports, particularly following sports. Those competitive teams with fierce names like the Lions....
Isaac
i'd like to throw something out to the exelders.. over the years since i stepped down as an elder, my dislike for the society and its ways has clearly grown.. but my love for the bible and my family and friends in the congregation has not got less.. i feel sorry that they are not mature enough to grasp the concept that you dont need the society to make god happy.. so i have been thinking ( and its just a crazy thought at the moment ) to requalify as an elder and to begin to really teach the truth.. to really challenge their thinking and take my talks to the limit without getting busted as a heretic.. whats youre thought?.
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I would say this: You'll have a hard time avoiding talks that expound teaching that bother you. You would have to climb up the ranks and be on the level of a congregation coordinator so that you could pick your parts. And that doesn't cover shepherding calls and judicial committees where you may feel very conflicted. It's a hard thing to do. I did it for several years.
Isaac
hey,.
i've been lurking on this website for a few years now and finally made an account.
i have serious doubts about the organization in general and still have not made up my mind about what to believe.
Welcome Nancy, look forward to seeing you around here.
Isaac
from http://www.jw.org/en/news/events-activities/annual-meeting-report-2012/.
when does jesus appoint the slave over all his belongings?.
in those verses, jesus is referring to his coming as judge during the great tribulation.matthew 24:30; 25:31, 32.. jesus appointment of the slave over his belongings, then, must also be a future event.
This is actually BIG! What pray tell is the FDS role now?
Isaac
just finished our 2 day and one of the talks by the do indicated that single sisters in the congregation are to be subservient to all male brothers in the hall..as well a widow too is of the same "status".
is this a new thought or just now an open secret?.
personally, i dont think that is good - after all there are many elders who although, supposedly appointed by hs, can be personally involved with porn behind closed doors or nasty with his wife and family.. i personally know of two like that .... why should i listen to a "stranger" about my life?
Technically this has always been true, but there are a gazillion ways to work around it. But yes Billy the 8 year old would be in charge. Though the sister would likely just wear a head covering and do what she had to do. Amazing because an 8 year old is not a man.
Isaac
according to the bite model, mind control groups keep their members busy, tell them they are special, have special lingo, etc.. doesn't that make "full-time ministers" into a deeper level of mind control?
it's a "special privilege" to be among those "ranks", there are extra meetings "anual pioneer meeting", "pioneer school", and a whole other level of guilt/indocrination/control for keeping pioneers/bethelites busy.
as "examples", they shouldn't socialize too much, they shouldn't miss field service groups, they should start their time early, they should study all the publications, etc.
Absolutely, particularly "special fulltime service" like Bethel and missionary service. I've always felt the cult watchers who sometimes feel that Watchtower is an HCG should look at this arm of Watchtower to see the real cultism.
Isaac
They always have. Even Jehovah has no place in the bedroom!
Isaac
