Absolutely fantastic. Enjoying work, reenrolled in school for the Fall, getting into local politics, fathering my daughter, hoping to get more into my hobbies by year's end, only thing missing is a good relationship with a lovely lady.
Isaac
are you hanging in there with life and moving on- post witness ?
i'm sure most are staying busy with work- or staying busy looking for work with this economy.
are you moving on and enjoying life in your leisure time ?
Absolutely fantastic. Enjoying work, reenrolled in school for the Fall, getting into local politics, fathering my daughter, hoping to get more into my hobbies by year's end, only thing missing is a good relationship with a lovely lady.
Isaac
You know this is good PR. And yet it's getting easier and easier to tell dubs that their organization has little to do with "God" and everything to do with 8-10 old men in Brooklyn, NY.
the jw's must not trust their members or at least don't have too much faith in them when it comes to being alone around member of the opposite sex.
i can remember one time in particular from when i was a teenager that still makes me laugh today.. when i was younger i used to go out in service on a regular basis during the week when i had summer break.
one time when i met for service there were only two other people that showed up.
Boy do these stories bring back memories. My first serious GF and I spent many months in service with my riding in the back seat. OMG, how stupid that seems now. Even when I wasn't chaperoned I was messed up by these insane and unnatural standards.
i will try to scan the photo tomorrow and put it on here.. i read some of the book today, it makes direct connections between the first century and jw's now.. for example:.
the book talks about the apostles and says, 'after jesus death, they took the lead, becoming the governing body of that time.".
congregations of that time - jw congregations today.
Funny they must have gotten tired of us saying how nobody knows who these old crones are that get JW's devotion.
i think i was 22 when that book came out.. and i remember the being at the convention remembering how much i appreciated it.. and even at that age - feeling like that book was for me.. but how do you feel about it today?.
i don't have a copy of it anymore, but i do remember it being one of the better books.. thoughts?.
You know parts of it (the Youth book-red) were. But I could DEFINITELY have done without all the sexual prudishness. It really messed with my head and still does occasionally. There are many better ways to educatea young person than those books. BTW-I love the Seven Habits book. I'd never heard of this one for teens. I want to read it and if it looks good, let my daughter read it.
I find that cutting and pastng from wtlib ruins my post format if I put my comments in too so therefore this post. I was actually looking for the comment they once made that the first century Christians were not as organized as modern day dubs are. But I can't find it right now. (If someone else does I'd love to know where it is so I can bookmark it.) But the above one does show that they acknowledge occasionally that there could not have been the type of structures in the first century that are in place today. Funny what they refuse to recognize is that they are very much like the Catholic Church minus the accoutrements and titles preceding the names.
*** w03 9/1 pp. 4-5 One True Christian Faith—A Reality ***
A Unified Congregation
We should not think of that first-century congregation as “a world-wide, universal, organized society such as we mean nowadays when we talk about the catholic church,” says The New Dictionary of Theology. Why not? “For the simple reason,” it says, “that such an organized, universal society scarcely existed.”
No one can rightly disagree with the fact that the early Christian congregation bore no resemblance to the institutionalized church systems we see today. But it was organized. Individual congregations did not operate independently of one another. They all recognized the authority of a governing body in Jerusalem. That body—consisting of the apostles and older men of the Jerusalem congregation—helped to preserve the unity of the congregation as the “one body” of Christ.—Ephesians 4:4, 11-16; Acts 15:22-31; 16:4, 5.
What happened to that one true congregation? Did it become the mighty Catholic Church? Did it evolve into the denominational, fragmented Protestant church system that we see today? Or did something else happen?
hey!
i stumbled on something on jwfacts.com.
on this page (http://jwfacts.com/index_files/1800s.htm) it says: (my emphasis).
bohm, what you just said is so true. And there will probably always be these cults. But educating oneself is the best defense.
What bothers me most and what is most dishonest about their editorial policy as mentioned earlier is that they don't state the changes. They just sneak them in. Newspapers, books, most published works make changes. It is after all their right. But they often state very clearly that corrections have been made and what they are. When you couple WT's lack of transparency with the fact that in almost every case the changes cover over some embarassing prophetic nightmare this amounts to intellectual dishonesty.
most jws dread the thought of never being talked to again by a fellow "brother" or "sister".
the thought of being shunned by your flesh and blood keeps many witnesses in the religion.. is df'ing or dissasociation all that terrible?
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Yes definitely for me. I miss my old friends but time does heal some wounds a bit. Fortunately my parents don't shun me. But even if they did as Jesus said I've gained brothers and sisters and even parents among people who don't shun me because we don't always agree. The world is a GREAT place to be in! Funny I'm not a christian but some of what he's alleged to have said has meaning for me.
well, i came across that site and thinks it's awesome!
i wish i had thought of the idea... anyways, i'd thought i would share it with you all because a lot of jws that have left the borg end up losing all there support system.
this site makes it so that you can meet up with other people at public locations with the same interests as you.
This is the NYC group....