Good point Trevor !!!!
Posts by Tez
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By way of an apology...
by Tez into all jwd posters that i have felt go overboard with your bitterness toward the borg!
see below a copy of part of my letter to my son (he posts on here when he gets chance to).
i now fully understand your anger and your desire to try and get jw's out of this blood guilty cult.
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By way of an apology...
by Tez into all jwd posters that i have felt go overboard with your bitterness toward the borg!
see below a copy of part of my letter to my son (he posts on here when he gets chance to).
i now fully understand your anger and your desire to try and get jw's out of this blood guilty cult.
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Tez
Thanks everyone, yes I suppose apologising is a balm to my soul as well, but I have also learnt a BIG lesson! Again as Paul said we still tend to think like JW's and one of the things they are big on, though they may deny it, is being judgemental... Well no more of that for me, if there is something I don't understand I will have to ask more questions to see if I can learn to understand, otherwise just learn to put up and shut up!!
For the 'other Paul' on here, hope one day your Mum comes round.
loadsa love everyone{{{{{{{{{{{{xxxxxxx}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
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The persons that had brought you into the WTS
by greendawn inafter the wts became a troublesome entity for you, how did you feel about the specific jws that persuaded you to come into the org which subsequently caused you so much heartache?
did you confront them on the issue?
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Tez
Was a very, sincere, zealous man, who sadly died some time ago. I think he understood and saw some of the failings of the organisation, had he lived maybe he would have eventually left. He was like my spiritual father and was there for me when I desperately needed support. Sadly like so many others he was misguided, but then who of us on here haven't been? No point laying blame on anyone, at one point I would have loved it if I had found someone to study with and bring to the point of baptism... that was our whole aim of going on the ministry wasn't it?
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Why am I not bitter?
by DannyBloem inmany people on this board seems to be a bit bitter and angry.
many do feel a form of hate towards the gb or even witnesses in general.. i do understand that many feel this way, some have all rigths to be bitter.. wy do i not feel like that?
i am not bitter, nor hate the gb or witnesses.
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Tez
Danny I felt this way too about other posters on this site, but please see my recent post, my apology to them. I now fully understand why they are bitter!! How long have you been 'out'? I never expected to feel the way I do now, for a long while I didn't feel any anger or bitterness, my attitude was live and let live, now, as you will see from my post I feel different for a very good reason. People I care about have been deceived in a gross way.
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By way of an apology...
by Tez into all jwd posters that i have felt go overboard with your bitterness toward the borg!
see below a copy of part of my letter to my son (he posts on here when he gets chance to).
i now fully understand your anger and your desire to try and get jw's out of this blood guilty cult.
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Tez
Shazard, see Yesidid's note. I wasn't sure that this was from Ray's second book. Chapter 9 was emailed to me from a friend who knows some of the struggles I have been having. It is quite long to email through to you but let me know if you have any problems and I will send it to you later. I haven't read it all yet! but what I have read has made me feel disgusted with myself for having been so blind!
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By way of an apology...
by Tez into all jwd posters that i have felt go overboard with your bitterness toward the borg!
see below a copy of part of my letter to my son (he posts on here when he gets chance to).
i now fully understand your anger and your desire to try and get jw's out of this blood guilty cult.
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Tez
To all JWD posters that I have felt go overboard with your bitterness toward the borg! See below a copy of part of my letter to my son (he posts on here when he gets chance to). I now fully understand your anger and your desire to try and get JW's out of this blood guilty cult. Please accept my apologies! Many of you are very informative on here and I appreciate all your input, keep up the good work!
....Anyhow aside from that, you may have received the email (sent it to your Yahoo address) that I got from ***, could you open the attachment on the Blood Issue? this was a chapter from Ray Franz’s book, not sure which one. Well I the thing is last night I garbled a prayer out, very garbled because I don’t know who I am praying to any more, if anyone. One thing I asked was if it is possible to find the ‘truth’ and could JW’s have any element of it. I haven’t read much of that email yet, just up to paragraph 20, and I am absolutely gob smacked!! I didn’t think I was naïve, and now I cannot believe how naïve I have been Paul. I have blindly followed that organisation and trusted them. You may say it shouldn’t be such a shock, and up till now I haven’t felt too shocked by anything I have learned, and as you know I have felt the folk on the JWD site go overboard in their bitterness, but now I fully understand it!!!! Yet when I read that article it was so bloody (‘scuse the pun) obvious! If they accept that it is permissible to use certain components of blood why did I never question how those components were taken from the blood? And you know what is the worst possible thing? I would have blindly gone along with this if any of you, as children, had needed to have blood!!
I am glad you never did, but sorry too for those that have refused blood for the wrong reasons.
All I can say to you and to your brothers and sister is that I am so, so, so, sorry. And I am happy now that at least the four of us have left it. It has been quite a step forward to at last say that I am happy to have left because up till now I wasn’t truly sure how I felt. This also now, makes me feel like taking the bull by the horns and printing the article off and sending it to your dad and ****** if it means that they will never talk to me again, at least I will feel that I have tried to set them straight in something. How would I feel if anything happened to them and they refused blood and lost their lives as a result if I hadn’t at least tried to show them this article? The organisation harps on a lot about ‘blood guilt’ but they have so much of it hanging over them…..
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Quotes from "Clothe Yoursleves With The New Personality" Assembly
by Inquisitor in"i use my time wisely by not spending it with my worldly friends..." and so you chose to spend it with people who devised rules that shut up their female members (with the exception of elders' wives who are skilled manipulators of men and power), ban moustaches and beards (for men too) and frown on higher education.
wise indeed!.
"we cannot find such joy (construction of new kingdom halls) in the jobs that we do in the world..." never had a fat paycheck waved in your face, have you?.
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Tez
Uhhmmm, correct me if I am wrong... but don't men and women who are not married to one another work together at Bethel????
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Has anyone communicated with the dead, and who do you think it was?
by jwfacts inhas anyone communicated with the dead, and who do you think it was?
what was your experience?.
do you believe it to be the spirit of a person, or a demon, or some other explaination such as a hoax?.
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My eldest sister became a spiritualist after having a 'poltergeist' experience. She was in the process of getting a divorce, had become pregnant by the new b/frnd, had just moved into a new house. The 'poltergeist' used to throw things around her house, threw a cycle across the hall way. In time it tried to appear to her and told her that it was the spirit of a man who had died before he could tell his unmarried pregnant daughter that he forgave her. My sister's b/frnd had been sceptical but he witnessed the incident with the cycle.
Another experience - my mother along with the aforementioned sister, became a spiritualist. She and my step dad lived in a flat, and upstairs lived a JW I knew well. One morning my step dad called me to say the JW brother had thrown a brick through their bedroom window. I was horrified. I went to see him, the story was that he had been persistently hearing my parents banging on the ceiling, or they would get up at 2am and bang their windows open and closed. I knew that my parents regular routine was to be in bed at 10.30pm. This brother was so convinced that they kept banging on the ceiling he had resorted to turning his tv low and invested in a headset to listen to the tv. This particular night the banging had got to him and he had thrown the brick through their window!
Make of it what you will....
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My Dad died this evening
by Mulan ini thought i would let you know that my dad, passed away a little while ago, tonight, january 23. they called me at 6pm to tell me.
he had been failing rapidly for the past month, and had completely lost his hearing and was totally blind.
the dementia was extreme too, and he still knew me on thursday, but didn't wake up to know me in the following days.
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Tez
{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{Hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} Mulan, grieving can take time, but when my dad died I find it helps to get out the photos and remember the good times... Take care of yourself!!
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Real evangelism powered by the Holy Spirit
by Shining One inas jws we all were forced to participate in their evangelistic method.
i think that it is based primarily on fear.
here is an article about true, holy spirit powered evangelism.
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Tez
Thanks Rex.... I have been looking into the 'born again' ideal, and you have just convinced me not to bother looking any further!!! Since when were you given the power of judgement over others, and what sort of an evangelist are you to start condemning anyone???