Posts by donny

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Do you sometimes think "Did I used to be that way?"

by donny in

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i have been out of the "org" for over 16 years now and i have pretty much left the jw menatality behind.

i have a jw who works for me and he rarely talks about his faith, but last thrusday was an exception.

he was all happy in telling me how the organization was growing and how the "faithful slave" was revealing new light for the brothers and how he feels that something big is on the horizon.

donny

I have been out of the "org" for over 16 years now and I have pretty much left the JW menatality behind. I have a JW who works for me and he rarely talks about his faith, but last Thrusday was an exception. He was all happy in telling me how the organization was growing and how the "faithful slave" was revealing new light for the brothers and how he feels that something big is on the horizon. After his speel he left the office and I sat there for a moment and thought "Man, did I used to sound like that?" I am sure I did, but now I really understand how bizarre I must have sounded to "wordly people."

Don

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Do you believe in life after death?

by Newborn in

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i'm not scared of death but as for most people i find it hard to accept it's just over when we die...but no-one can ever know... and i'm working on coming to terms with that.

maybe it's harder for us who's been sure of living forever in paradise?.

/newborn.

donny

I used to but not anymore. I admit it's a hard concept to give up, especially after 40 years of believing it, but logic tells me otherwise. I feel a lot of folks believe it because they want it to be true and I understand that feeling, but that in itself is not enough proof for me. I have seen nothing nor experienced anything that would lead me to believe that our life continues after we depart.

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JW's and Others Take Heed - Child Abuse is Masked Behind Respectability

by flipper in

it's well been stated before when a pedophile has been found out molesting someone's child that friends and family can't believe how the allegedly "joe the respectable " friend , father, pastor, elder or ms , could possibly be molesting a child !

2 cases in point here in the sacramento, california area .

the first case a stepfather just committed murder-suicide on himself, his wife, and 2 small children .

donny

Not exactly the case as we now know, the acknowledged fact is that pedophiles like being involved with religions just like the JWS, because it offers them
a indiscreet hiding place , an association that covers them with a white sheet of righteousness so to speak.

Homerovah, that is a great observation that many do not see. I heard a Catholic Priest on a local talk show recently and he pretty much said the same thing. He said people often blame celibacy as a root cause for the many acts of child abuse that have occured within its ranks, but he said that has nothing to do with. He stated that "a long time ago" people with this defect discovered that the Priesthood was the perfect place to engage in this type of behavior because of the cloak of righteosness and trust that came with the job. Back in the day, no one would ever believe that such things could happen to their kids from men of the cloth, and therefore they often sent their children into the lions den and had no idea.

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Anybody remember the BS transplant horror stories?

by donny in

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back in my day, although the ban on organ transplants had just been lifted due to the light getting brighter (gags), i remember the outrageous stories regarding transplants.

one that i will never forget went as follows.

this sister, known for talking a lot, described how this white brother in "another congregation", ignored the society's advice on the matter and went ahead and had a heart transplant.

donny

Back in my day, although the ban on organ transplants had just been lifted due to the light getting brighter (gags), I remember the outrageous stories regarding transplants. One that I will never forget went as follows. This sister, known for talking a lot, described how this white brother in "another congregation", ignored the Society's advice on the matter and went ahead and had a heart transplant. Unbenownst to him, the donor heart he received was from a worldly African American. After the brother was released from the hospital and had fully recovered, he began craving women of African American descent and suddenly wanted to go dancing at black nighclubs. He also eventually developed a strong sexual appetite and was later disfellowshipped for immorality.

I wanted so bad to tell her that was total BS, but I was still new in the "truth" at the time. I never knew a heart transplant had a viagra like effect and could give a person good rhythm.

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How many JW's quietly know it is all bull....or...

by oompa in

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at least have major doubts and flat out do not agree on some fds teaching.

lately i have been very engaging with jw family and friends and every single one had at least one total disagreement with the fds (i told them i would not shun them for this apostacy, and to be careful who they express it to...lol).

common non-beliefs with fds....were:.

donny

vasectomy a no-no?

I've been out for some time and was not aware of this prohibition. When did it start? I received a vasectomy in 1989 and I was a ministerial servant at the time and the elders were all aware of the operation.

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WHY don't Americans realize GUNS are destroying their country?

by Witness 007 in

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usa today everyone has a gun, why?.....to protect themselves...from who?

other folks with guns!.....yes it's in your laws...but they were written when the british ruled you.

one school gun killing every week does not happen anywhere else in the world....maybe you need more guns to protect your kids.....one in the lunchbox.....does anyone else see this.

donny

I am 49 years old, grew up in Texas and no one in my family has ever owned a gun. I know a lot do, but I would doubt it was a majority.

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Have you met Governing Body members?

by BonaFide in

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brother jaracz taught one day of my mts class, the very last day.

when i was in bethel i met brother schroeder, brother sydlik, barr, barry.

i said hi to brother franz once as a kid.. the new ones?

donny

Back in the day I met Dan Sydlik, Carey Barber and John Barr by escorting them to and fro to their hotel rooms. When I became inactive in 1992, the presiding overseer brought Ted Jarasz by my house to encourage me to return to the fold. He identified himself as "Ted Jarasz from Brooklym."

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Ran into the JW table at San Diego airport...

by Confession in

yes, my ladyfriend and i were entering the san diego airport for our flight home to phoenix late yesterday afternoon, when i noticed a forty-ish man and woman sitting down behind a table loaded with wts publications.

i stopped to glance over them with joy.

i made familiar comments about some of the publications, noting the newer soft covers and trying to casually engage the pair in conversation.

donny

I have seen the same setup at the San Jose airport nearly everytime I go there. It's a 50'ish man and woman sitting at a fold out table with the lastest light from the WTBTS. Last year I did say to them "I have done a little reading on your organization and I am curious. What was the Society teaching between 1914 and 1919 that chose Jesus to choose them as the Faithful Slave". The man just looked at me and replied "That's a good one" laughed and then directed me to write to the Society and ask them. If I had not been in a rush, I would have tried to converse more.

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Disfellowshiped Last Night - Elder Question

by johnnyc in

i know some of you know me by my posts...as someone very much on the "fence".

recently, i had made an effort to start coming back to meetings after being inactive for 2+ years.

during that time, i did have a prescription drug problem following an injury.

donny

Johnny,

I understand your frustration and confused state of mind. I was in the organization for ten years and at the time I was not looking for a way out. I just had some legitimate questions that I wanted answers to and the elders, instead of trying to show me the way, instead became paranoid and wanted to know why I wanted the evidence I was asking for.

It boiled down to this. The Society claims to be sole channel to the way, the truth and the life in connecting with our Creator. Anybody or any group that claims such is making a monumental statement and that monumental statement requires monumental evidence. I said to the elders, "The Society teaches that Jesus sat down on his throne in October of 1914 and for the next 4.5 years he examined all of the groups claiming to follow him and in the spring of 1919, he selected the group of men who were associated with the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society.

When you go back and examine the publications and statements of the Society during this time, all you see in one false prediction/statement after another. They taught the last days had begun in 1799 and that Chrust had returned in 1874. The "food at the proper time" released in 1917, The Finished Mystery, stated that Christendom would be wiped out in 1918 and the governments would fall in 1920. These are but a few of the scores of false statements that they were proclaiming at the time. Mind you, this were not statements/teachings they had borrowed from Christendom, these were manufactured and produced by the so-called Faithful and Discreet Slave.

When the were unable to give me any reason to support their monumental claim to authority other than "We just are", I knew without a doubt this was not Gods Organization and ceased being associated with it. Leaving was a bit hard and you just don't wipe out the Society mentality overnight. It takes one a while to get there and likewise it takes one a while to clear out the "junk." I have been out for 16 years now and I have never ever regretted my decision. There is life outside of the Watchtower, and it's good.

P.S. A few months ago, a person in my old congregation emailed me and tried to get me to reconsider. After calling me a bunch of names, he stated, " Unfortunately for you, you're too smart for your own good. You think too much." That was all he had in reply to the same question I listed above.

Donny

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What Is Your Present Status In The Organization?

by minimus in

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are you disfellowshipped?

disassociated?

a fader?

donny

Proudly dissassociated since 1992.