q. how do you explain the millions that have left or were dfd/dad from jws?.
a. no evidence exists that it is the truth.. case closed....
I asked my jw the following as well, "Why do they leave if it's the truth?" he says it is because they don't want live by rules and have someone in authority over them. Basically they want to go out and become sinners, sex, drugs and rock & roll kind of lifestyle. They think they can live their life however they want.
Yeah I know, I'm sitting here shaking my head too.
Ask a jw if they are a sinner, listen to them spin that one!
so i was recalling my last talk , it was something to do with finding jehovah's treasures or something anyhow in my prep i decided to google "real life treasure maps " and i came across the copper scroll which was found with the dead sea scrolls https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/copper_scroll and i described the real life treasure map etc and of course likened it to the bible as if it were a treasure map to life (duh) anyway afterwards an elder present at my talk said "i wouldn't believe everything u read on the internet" .
i was totally pissed off by his comments as though if it didn't come from a wt publication it can't be trusted as true , this was before i woke up but i was so incensed by his comments it messed with me that he would doubt my research and then ..... i woke up but that wasn't what did it just an.event along the way.
My jw used to like to say, " I wouldn't believe everything u read on the internet" as well. He stopped or reduced his reciting of this comment when I replied, "you are right! YOU shouldn't believe everything you read on the internet either!" He knew/knows full well I mean the wt website. Karma.
the wt teaches that "fatherless boys" need special care and attention in the congregation.
however, as brought out at the rc their definition of "fatherless boys" includes boys that have actual fathers who maybe very well qualified to teach and raise their sons.
according to wt, if either of your parents aren't jws then you are a "fatherless boy.
How ironic! when my jw first joined up my kids felt they had become fatherless! I also felt like I had become practically a single mother. I knew divorced men with only partial custody that spent more time with their children. Back then they still had the 2 meetings during the week, he was gone every week night but 2. Tues was a meeting night, Wed his bs study, Thurs another meeting, Sat morning fs, Sunday 4 mind numbing hours again. That left Friday night which they also tried to take until I put a quick stop to that one and Monday night was free. By then we were so disgusted by him we didn't care if he was around or not.
Things have since improved but the kids still hold some resentment. Can't imagine what how things will go if grandchildren come. My guess will be that they will never leave kids alone with grandpa or maybe be honest and tell them grandpa is in a cult don't listen to his religious nonsense. Time will tell.
there seems to be a number of different ways that apostates try to get jehovah's witnesses realise they do not have the truth, ranging from subtle comments to aggressive attacks.
do you have any that looking back helped you finally leave.
some of the methods include:.
Was it David Reed (name correct?) that was at a convention and some apostates had signs that said, "Read the Bible not the watchtower" and he and his wife thought they had a point and the rest is history! Once they actually read the Bible they could no longer be jw's. (I think that's how the story went)
hello there.. my father just claimed that the good thing about being a witness was how they just let the bible interpret itself.
now i know the irony in this statement, but i dont know what to show him that he just cant discard with some ignorant excuse.
any ideas?
waton,
Won't a jw use the overlapping generation thing to answer that?
i could only think of weddings and wedding anniversaries .
Line dancing? really? what is the rational on that one?
My jw says jw's really know how to party and dance up a storm at weddings. Keeping in mind he never actually went to one....... I laughed so hard when he told me that, guess you had to be there.
leah remini’s anti-scientology doc: former celeb wrangler admits how tom cruise was “surrounded” and isolated.
http://www.showbiz411.com/2016/11/23/leah-reminis-anti-scientology-doc-former-celeb-wrangler-admits-how-tom-cruise-was-surrounded-and-isolated.
"leah remini’s anti-scientology documentary on a&e is scorching.
"Looks like Leah Remini has her eye's on the JWs for her next TV documentary.."- I hope so!
no doubt we have all heard that well used "illustration" in public talks etc over the years:.
"if you were handed a glass of water that looked pure, but were told it has just a tiny drop of poison in it, would you drink it?".
the society has used that illustration at length to say we should avoid all influences of every part of the world.. but, as we know, the society has had a track record of errors, false ideas and doctrines.
On one hand they say,"would you drink a glass of water if it had just a tiny bit of poison in it?" yet, on the other hand they will often admit, "even if it's not the truth it is still the best way to live".
In my mind they admit that they in fact will drink a glass with a tiny bit of poison by staying in the cult.
If it's not the 'truth' or completely the truth then it must be false, or, spiritually endangerment, if you will. By admitting that some parts may not be 'truth' then they are admitting that they are teaching and promoting falsehood in re: to God. Wouldn't you think this would be a bigger deal to a true believer? to knowingly be teaching a falsehood about God?
But then I don't think the average jw or watchtower follower (wf, as my friend likes to call them) really cares all that much about God, they care more about what men think and belonging to an exclusive club that hopefully will admit them entrance into their fictional paradise earth if they can just to enough to earn that privilege .
http;www.worlstarhipop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhmg115hx2qp8inyuo.went too far, man answers the door naked when jw's appear..https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=akj2w94el_a...oh hell search, went to far, man answers the door naked when jw's appear, a young black male......it was e-mail to me and i'am using the same address but not working for me,hopefully you will find it.
a young jw child was present, not good.......
Some people are actually nudists. I remember a family long ago before it was as prevalent as it may be today and they all were naked all the time if they were home. I was a kid and when we heard about this we all thought it strange, but it does happen in some families.
Easy way to protect jw kids and adults, quit knocking on strangers doors, stop going where you haven't been invited.
jw believe that jworg is the best website and most translated in the world.. i heard this today in streetservice.
there was already a thread about this subject.
anybody can link it?.
"It's also surprisingly hgh in the most visited rankings."- I wonder how much of that is from apostates?
That's exactly why I won't click on any link going to the official jw site. jw's, like mine, would say something on the order of, " many people like yourself (meaning me) and others really do believe in jw doctrines and beliefs but you just don't want to change your lifestyle. Just look at our rankings and how many people go there daily for spiritual teaching". Years ago they would brag about placing so many rags and now they just have replaced that with how many clicks they get.
