Posts by rebel8

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Why are people so dramatic

by rebel8 in

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i want to retire.

i'm quite a ways off from the age to collect social security and all.

i don't hate working--i actually like it.

rebel8

Actually it just seems like junior high school. So immature. I'm disciplining someone for it.

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i joined the board this month and holy cow, are there ever some interesting points of view here.. a bit about my background: my dad was an unbaptised born-in who nevertheless went to vietnam and college where he met my mom.

mom was lutheran, but dad told her the only religion he was interested in belonging to was the jdubs.

they married in the early 70s and were both baptized.

rebel8

Welcome!

I find this board a crazy and wonderful place

That it is. Exiting the cult always involves turbulence, even if it's years later.

I've decided to be a bit more challenging to my mom when she makes comments about how bad things are in this system of things, or asks me if I still think about Jehovah.

Yeah, I tolerate NO incidental witnessing without responding. I have notified her if she does not bring it up, I won't, but if she does, she has opened the door for me to respond (and I will do it in front of whatever audience she chose to start it).

I say things like, "Are you reporting this discussion on your time card?" (Non-jws find it creepy that dubs report their time and counts of incidental witnessing. They feel casual conversations are just sales pitches and ways for her to get her numbers up. It puts them on alert.)

Or, "Yes things definitely are changing. Over the millenia, we've reduced premature death, disease, violence, ignorance, crime, and hunger. And even earthquakes are declining."

Or, "When I was a kid, they were teaching the preaching work would be finished by the end of the century--it's even in the publications--because Armageddon would be happening. Have they apologized or admitted their mistake yet?"

Or, "Why doesn't the hall do charitable stuff instead of selling books?"

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Family Gathering ( or the day also known as Thanksgiving)

by Theredeemer in

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every year on a certain thursday in november my family and close witness friends would get together, eat menudo ( hispanic stew) and other foods, watch football and then get dressed to go to the meeting.. sister so and so would bring her famous pie, bro and sister so and so would bring their gross punch and bro and sis so and so would bring mexican sweet bread.

sometimes we would go to "worldy" aunt's and pick up plates of turkey and fixins.. this was every year on a certain date, on a certain thursday in november.. this continued until my mom got alzheimers.

by that time i was married and had my own house.

rebel8

There used to be a large "gathering" every year on Thanksgiving with a traditional meal and football watching. There was nothing different about it, except if you went to your relatives' to do the same thing, you were weak.

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Hello!

by mikeypants in

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wanted to say hello to you all.

i am new to the forum and just wanted to introduce myself.

i was raised a witness, never baptized (yay) and am married to a lovely baptized witness of jehovah.. i had been trying to get back into it due to both our families being j dbs but just never could get it into my heart.

rebel8

I don't know about y'all, but anyone who uses the word minutiae is good in my book. :)

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A Genuine Venetian Singing Gondolier- But where is he Singing?

by fulltimestudent in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1wwgxzrw3s.

rebel8

The Venetian Resort? There's no way water that clear is in the canals of Venice.

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Rumor: New light comes from outside marketing consultants

by Londo111 in

this is a rumor i heard back in november, it comes to me third or fourth-hand.

feel free to poke holes.

i have many doubts about this myself.

rebel8

I have a little hard time believing actual doctrine comes from outside, but it does seem they have been rebranding themselves, like jgnat said. The logo/URL seems like what JC Penney did with JCP.com. Simple and easy. The cartoons and other stuff--just seems like marketing savvy.

Perhaps conversations get going with consultants and they learn how to appeal to certain demographics who are more likely to join or stay in. Maybe they study what doctrines are turning people off, stats on why people are dfd, etc.

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Why are people so dramatic

by rebel8 in

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friends

i want to retire.

i'm quite a ways off from the age to collect social security and all.

i don't hate working--i actually like it.

rebel8

I want to retire. I'm quite a ways off from the age to collect Social Security and all. I don't hate working--I actually like it. I just hate some people.

There appears to be a somewhat large percentage of the human race that needs to create drama all the time. It's like breathing to them--second nature. Drama hounds. Need to create conflict, gossip, find fault, manipulate, etc. Waste more damn time doing all that crap than they do just working.

I accepted my current job with a plan it will take me further away from all that and let me spend more time alone. So far it's not working out that way. Drama, drama, drama. It's like how I imagine Survivor to be--someone's always trying to build an alliance and vote someone off the island.

People suck, and I wish I could retire right now.

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My friends don't believe dinosaurs existed ....

by wannabefree in

i just found this out last night.

(preface: this is a husband and wife that i have come to be friends with after leaving the borg, they are christians).

we were sitting around visiting last night and having a good time when my friend starts in on illegal immigration and politics and starts throwing out his hate speech which eventually turns to homosexuals.

rebel8

I heard dubs claim dinosaurs were bulldozer-shaped and demons made fossils too. It's just so sad the lengths people will go to in order to avoid disconfirming their beliefs.

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Bible amusement parks, haunted houses, etc.

by rebel8 in

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this thread has no point except...i find this weird.

(also, i haven't run into outlaw in a while and i know this is bound to make him show up.).

i accidentally spent about 5 minutes on kpaz channel.

rebel8

This thread has no point except...I find this weird. (Also, I haven't run into Outlaw in a while and I know this is bound to make him show up.)

I accidentally spent about 5 minutes on KPAZ channel. omg.

Maybe it's my former jw self but why do people think Jesus' last meal and execution is entertaining? Last snack? Recreations of the passion? My flesh crawls.

http://www.holylandexperience.com/exhibits/exhibits.html

	Garden of Eden: Recreation of the garden described in Genesis.
	Bethlehem Bus Loop: Area stations of Bethlehem village.
	Noah's Ark: A tenth-scale recreation of the Ark that God instructed Noah to build.
	Face of Jesus Statue: Jesus watches over you wherever you go.
	Main entrance/City Gate: Pass beneath the stone arch modeled after the Damascus and Jaffa Gates of Jerusalem.
	Guest Services: Located near the City Gate, accessible from both inside and outside the facility.
	Ticket Booth: Purchase daily and special event tickets here.
	Holy Grounds Café: A gourmet coffee shop with milk shakes and sweet treats -- some directly from Israel!
	Jerusalem Street Market: Browse the beautiful marketplace.
	Solomon's Treasures: Experience 1st Century shopping.
	Smile of a Child Adventure Theatre: Movies, Kid Style Fun and Face Painting.
	Smile of a Child Adventure Land: Tackle the rock-climbing walls, enjoy a laugh at the interactive presentations and visit Jonah in the belly of a whale.
	Wilderness Tabernacle: Behold the High Priest as he takes you on a journey through Israel’s ancient priesthood, culminating with the glory of God revealed above the Ark of the Covenant. (20 minute presentations)
	Garden of Gethsemane: Come rest awhile in the beautiful replica of the prayer gardens in Israel.
	Holy Communion with Jesus: Become like one of Jesus' disciples at the Last Supper in the Upper Room.
	Qumran Caves: Replica of desert cave where the Dead Sea Scrolls were discovered.
	Tiny Town of Bethlehem: Model of the town of Bethlehem.
	Birth Place of Jesus: Replica of the birth place in Bethlehem where Jesus was born.
	Whipping Post: Recreation of the place Pilate had Jesus scourged.
	Jehovah- Jirah Healing Garden: Seek healing and comfort in this peaceful setting.
	Calvary's Garden Tomb: Visit the replica of the garden tomb where Jesus’ body was laid to rest before His glorious resurrection. Go inside and look at the ancient Biblical artifacts.
	Road to Emmaus: Enjoy a peaceful lakeside stroll.
	Testimony Cross: Nail your burdens, prayer requests and praise reports to the cross.
	Esther's Banquet Hall: Sit down and enjoy a meal in a beautiful environment.
	Jesus Boat: Replica of a boat found on the shores of Galilee preserved for more than 2000 years.
	Temple Plaza: Featuring a replica of the Temple of Jerusalem during the reign of Herod, 66 A. D.
	Theater of Life: Home to a variety of TBN Family Movies. See Daily Schedule for times.
	Martha's Kitchen: Enjoy a sandwich, snack or cold drink between activities.
	Christus Gardens: Take a devotional walk through the birth, death and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ.
	Jerusalem Model A.D. 66: The world’s largest indoor model of Jerusalem. Presentations explain the city’s landmarks and Christ’s final days in Jerusalem. 30-minute presentations, see Daily Schedule for times.
	House of Judea: Our cool and refreshing, state-of-the-art venue for dramas, musicals, and presentations.
	Gold, Frankincense and Myrrh Shop: Bibles, distinctive gifts and more.
	Bethlehem Bell Tower (Church of the Nativity, Israel): Enjoy the hourly chimes.
	Church of All Nations: 2000 seat auditorium. Enjoy live presentations, worship and more.
	Baptismal Pool: Follow Jesus in water baptism. (Weather permitting)
	The Scriptorium: Experience this amazing journey through the history of the Bible. See the world's largest private collection of authentic ancient artifacts. Continuous 55 minute automated tours begin every 7 minutes. See daily schedule for operating hours.
	Ex Libris Book Shoppe: Bibles, books, gifts and more.
	Living Word Prayer Gardens: Prayer gardens for intercession and healing. Rest and hear God's Word.
	He is Risen: Natural living hedge recreation of Matthew 28:6.
	Last Snack: Enjoy a sandwich, snack or cold drink between activities.
	Crystal Living Waters: See and hear the world-class dancing waters presentation.
	Tour Bus Gate: Exit for groups on tour buses.
	Dr. Paul F. Crouch Antiquities Collection: See the priceless items belonging to Dr. Paul.
	Golgotha: Imagine what Jesus felt standing atop this recreation of Calvary's hill, made of real stone from Israel.

Along the same lines, Hell Houses. omg.

For prices around $299.00, it is once again possible this year to buy a Hell House Kit for creating your own moralist haunted house....hit on the idea of encouraging church communities to construct haunted houses anyway. They would be designed in the typical scare-the-crap-out-of-the-kids spirit. But the frights would be religiously-themed: the seven deadly sins...In most hell houses you’ll be scared not by a ghost, but a vision of a woman bleeding to death from between her legs—she’s terminated a pregnancy...The basic kit goes for $299.00, but from there the church offers plug-in “modules,” allowing a particular hell house to address specific sins in one’s own neighborhood.

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True Apostates

by objectivetruth in

all truly great men & women of past & present all have something in common.. they stand up for truth.. "i am not bound to win, but i am bound to be true.

i am not bound to succeed, but i am bound to live by the light that i have.

i must stand with anybody that stands right, and stand with him while he is right, and part with him when he goes wrong.

rebel8

That was a really beautiful OP. It pretty much sums up my life.