Posts by slimboyfat

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Paul did not belittle women

by Doug Mason in

i note the recent post that quoted 1 timothy 2:11-12 and colossians 1:23 which place women at a level that is lower to men.

the poster accused paul of this mysoginy, but that is not correct.. 1 timothy, 2 timothy, titus, colossians, ephesians and hebrews were written after paul's death.. paul was not a mysoginist; he made full use of women in leadership roles.

he wrote that in god's sight there is neither male nor female, for all are one in god's sight.. doug.

slimboyfat

Was 1 Cor 11:3 written by Paul?

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Why the resurrection must be true

by slimboyfat in

okay i was thinking about it.

and it is a transhumanist argument and nothing new, i do realise that before anyone points it out.

but it struck me afresh today that the resurrection must happen.. firstly, to state the obvious, a rational materialist conception of reality seems to exclude resurrection.

slimboyfat

Okay I was thinking about it. And it is a transhumanist argument and nothing new, I do realise that before anyone points it out. But it struck me afresh today that the resurrection must happen.

Firstly, to state the obvious, a rational materialist conception of reality seems to exclude resurrection. For a start there is no good evidence a resurrection has ever happened in the past, just rumours and stories. Secondly traditional conceptions of resurrection rely on a distinction between physical and spiritual or the body and soul that we no longer recognise as valid. These seem like pretty good reasons for thinking resurrection is completely pie in the sky.

But if we follow a materialist conception of reality to its end conclusion we could argue that resurrection is at the end of the trail. Think about it.

Assmuption 1. If reality consists of material and nothing else then who we are and our consciousness arises purely from the order of the material substance of our bodies - primarily our brains. There is no spirit or soul involved.

Assumption 2. Since the material substance of the universe obeys consistent laws, the position and configuration of material in the universe at any given point in time could, in principle, be extrapolated from the position and trajectory of the material substance of the universe at any other given time.

Assumption 3. Over time humans (or intelligent beings generally) accumulate information about the universe, its content and laws. If this accumulation continues indefinitely it will inevitably reach a point where the material composition of the universe is known exhaustively, not simply for one point in time, but for all time. Just as geologists are now able to create maps of how the continents were configured millions of years ago by extrapolating continental movement according to physical laws, future scientists will be able to map out the exact composition of all matter at all previous points in time according to physical laws.

Assumptions 4. A civilisation or intelligence which has been able to exhaustively map the material composition and configuration of the universe over all of time will also be in a position to recreate entities including people from the past by recreating their exact material condition.

Assumption 5. Humans of each generation will be suficciently attached to their parents and immediate ancestors to insist they are brought back to life when it becomes feasible to do so.

If all of these assumptions are true, it seems to me that a general resurrection at some point is not just likely but pretty inevitable. Which is a ridiculous thing to say. But it seems to follow from the assumptions. And each of the assumptions as they stand seem quite reasonable.

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2.16.2017 NJ Star-Ledger Ad: "Were you sexually abused by the Jehovahs Witnesses?"

by breakfast of champions in

my wife found this 1/4 page ad on page 2 of yesterday's nj star-ledger, probably the biggest newspaper in nj.

pretty telling.. .

slimboyfat

Very interesting. Given they were already short of money, could they actually run out? What would happen if they did?

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Faith to Faithless XJW event London, UK

by Fe2O3Girl in

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we often come across jehovah's witnesses near station entrances and at our front doors, but we never hear about what happens when they leave.

if you're near london, uk, faith to faithless are doing their first ever event at kings college london, and their first ex jw panel!.

slimboyfat

He may eventually give talks in the Theocratic Ministry School if his doing so would not disturb others.

What a weird clause this is, that they insert liberally throughout their rule book. It basically makes some people live at the mercy of the vindictiveness of anyone who feels "disturbed" about a fellow human being no longer being shamed.

"Oh I'm so disturbed that brother Marc is allowed to give talks when he should be sitting down feeling ashamed of himself and inferior to me."

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COs are like parrots, can’t handle questions of dynamic nature!

by anointed1 in

when i was a zealous publisher, once i took co for a return visit to learn how he handles difficult questions.

house holder brought the subject of joshua secretly sending two spies to spy out the city of jericho before its planned conquest, and asked: “wasn’t joshua acting in a human way here?

why would joshua need to send spies if he was the commander-in-chief appointed by god the almighty?”.

slimboyfat

Then he resembles most other JWs.

"Always be ready to fail to give an answer for the hope you claim within you" might be a good motto

Never heard of the word byhearting before.

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TV commercial seen in the United States, from a Law firm "Asking if you were ever sexually abused by JEHOVAHS WITNESSES, please call".

by Dunedain in

ok, so i don't know if this is "old news", and if this has been seen, and or mentioned already.

if it was, i do apologize, but i feel i have to mention what has been seen on tv, within the past 24 hours.. first off, i would like to say that i did not personally see this commercial.

however, it was seen by someone that i can verify 100% is telling the truth, as it was my own father who saw it.