ringo5
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No lawyers in 1st century congregation?
by ringo5 inwhere is the 1st century example of a legal department, that we can pattern this aspect of our worship after, today?
where's the "antitypical lawyer and insurance adjuster class" mentioned that justifies the huge wts legal dept.?
i mean, the gospel writers obviously didn't submit their writings to any legal dept.
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How do you know Satan didn't write the Bible?
by seattleniceguy inthe standard christian story on the bible is that god wrote it to let us humans know what's going on, lay down some rules, and tell us how to get saved from our pitiful state.
as everyone knows, i don't buy any portion of this.
but i have a question for the believers.
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Do any of us really want the truth?
by Qcmbr ini've been reading some essays concerning disagreement online that got me thinking - i won't even attempt to do them justice but to share some ideas that struck home to me.
we spend most of the time here sharing ideas and thoughts often in response to other posts and as arguements to invalidate or re-colour what someone else said.
there is an implicit drive behind each thread to somehow approximate a 'truth' from the many different viewpoints - almost like a collective conscience ('the forum') weighing and then selecting or rejecting the mood of the thread and as we share in the posts we add just a little weight and influence to its direction.
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Christian email fraud
by ringo5 inhere's a copy fo an email i recieved recently.
are these scammers thinking christians are by definitian more gullible or naive?
just thought it was a new slant on email fraud... .
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Is what we believe to be real.....really real?
by gumby inif your eyes follow the movement of the rotating pink dot, you will only see one color, pink.
if you stare at the black + in the center, the moving dot turns to green.
now, concentrate on the black + in the center of the picture.
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December KM
by TheListener insomebody who has received their december km please post the publisher figures.
i would like to add them to my chart.
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I NEED YOUR INPUT ON THIS ASAP..
by Mary inok, i got a call tonight from an old friend i knew years ago when i lived in another city.
i haven't seen him for 18 years although we have had occassional contact.
he's coming in to toronto next week and wants to know if we can get together to catch up.
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Are you honest when you say your age?
by JH ini know people who don't say their real age, like take off 2 or 3 years.... my mom looks younger than her age, so she sometimes took off a few years.
gee, i'm just the opposite, i rather say my real age, and wait for a compliment saying "hey you look good for your age".
how about you, do you ever lie on your age?
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RANT: Desultory ramblings of a frustrated cult member
by dorayakii inafter almost a year of living abroad, away from my parents and away from anything even remotely watchtower related, having allowed myself to not worry about these silly little things (yet convincing my parents that i was still going); now that i've been back for about 6 weeks, i feel that i have to put on a double effort to cover over things that i've said or done, and avoid using "suspect" words or phrases like "cheers" or "good luck".
its driving me crazy at the moment, and 10 times more than it was doing before i moved out.
today, i had a mini panic attack at having told a "worldly" friend of mine "good luck".
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Update to my meeting with an elder
by Goldminer in.
first of all,sorry for being so late with my update.my wife got up at 8 am this morning so i didn't have the opportunity to be alone for a while.. as for the meeting last night,the elder was very civil,actually commended me for writing my questions down.he never made threaths,asked me if i read apostate material or if i still considered myself a jw.. we started with the 607 question.he will not believe any research beyond the wt's but said he'd do more research on it(all wt) so i guess that will go no where.he believes that ctr got it right by using the bible so i told him if it was figured out 130 years ago,it should be very simple to explain today.the only time he looked stunned was when i showed him from the wt that they once believed that jesus' presence began in 1874.he said he had never read that and tried to walk around it even when i asked him if jehovah wanted his people to believe something that wasn't true.. we beat around a few other questions with nothing concrete coming out of it.he did take my list home with him and said he'd look at them more carefully to get some scriptural answers.i also got the feeling that my wife got a spiritual boost from his visit which was very disheartening to me.anyways,i'm going to work on this 607 thing and see how things go.my wife asked me if i felt like we got somewhere and i said no.beibg told that something is the truth just because the wt says so just doesn't convince me anymore.. i'm attaching my questions,hopefully they show up here.thanks everybody,i feel really down,like i'm wasting my time.i've been wanting to run from this religion for years and here i am still fighting to prove my points.. goldminer.
p.s.-question files won't load-sorry.