seattleniceguy,
if you believe in a world where magic is real, then it's really impossible to believe anything
We have to get together for coffee one morning when yuo can take the whole day off. LOL!
I believe in a world where at the quantum level matter appears and disappears, is somehow affected by its disappearance to reappear in a modified form than the form it had when it disappeared (often seen in movement relative to the observer's perspective).
I believe that such a world would have been considered magical 100 years ago. Heck, even 50 years ago.
I believe quantum physics is in the process of proving that the universe is more magical than we believed.
I am a believer. Many scientists are also starting to believe. Science labels what they find, if they ever found evidence of a spiritual world what form would such evidence take? They would label as many properties as they could and start referring to it as though they had properly "thingified" whatever it was they described by the act of describing it.
You probably see the logical fallacy inherent in that methodology for discovery. Once something has been "thingified" its basic nature is rarely reexamined. Our longtime fascination with light has been caused by its stubborn resistance to "thingification." It holds out interest because of this.
But there is a long list of evidence of realities that either cannot be seen, touched, or felt. These have been improperly "thingified."
For instance, you cannot sell me a magnetic field. It is not a noun, yet almost any dictionary lists it as a noun. Magnetic force is likewise not a thing, any more than any forces are things. But when we find phenomenas we describe as much as we can and call it a thing. That is why I do not believe science will ever discover anything spiritual, I don't think it possibly can because of how it does what it does.
A gluon is a made up name for a theoretical neutral massless particle that is more likely with every study done. It causes quarks to combine into hadrons. How long have we had these terms? What are the properties of these bits; gluons, quarks, and hadrons? How can a neutral massless particle exist without magic? How can such a particle exert NO FORCE over quarks but at the same time CAUSE them to bind to form hadrons?
Why is that important to know? Because hadrons experience strong force, whereas leptons do not. What is a hadron? What is a lepton? Let's get bigger: What is an eletron, a muon, or a neutrino? Oh wait! Those ARE leptons. How much would a five gallong bucket filled with electrons weigh? Would I be able to see them? Could I stick my hand in the bucket and feel them?
But we believe in them...magic little elves and pixies, that make up...well...everything.
AuldSoul