Posts by rmt1

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Sins that J kills you for, even if you repent

by rebel8 in

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on this thread, i remarked that certain sins 'grieve the spirit' (or whatever term the dubs use to call something a mortal sin).. i was taught there are certain sins so serious that you must pay with your life, even if you repent.those sins are so serious that you must be a human sacrifice like the israelites did with animals to cleanse the sin.. but don't worry--jehoopla will raise you back up to become a zombie on earth.

what a loving god!!.

i haven't heard this discussed in a while so i'm imagining it's one of the many teachings they just stopped mentioning, without officially retracting it.

rmt1

"Jehovah to execute you at Armageddon, probably in a horrific manner, only to resurrect you later."

I got out in 1999. I do not recall that last part. The last I heard was that if you're killed at Armageddon that _was_ your last opportunity. The entire mechanics of their apocalyptic franchise rests on that specific terror, and on making the ostensible nations (but in practice the publishers) faint out of fear for what murder and genocide Jehovah-Satan is bringing (hyphenation intentional). I'll be curious to the responses...

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JW women love and the control system my view point

by MysticMage in

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well let's just say i never had any luck with women in the jws.

i only met one super hot girl with a great body.

and sexy voice.

rmt1

Is laughing important to you? Do any women make you laugh?

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Why is JW Net so hostile? Is it just me?

by Brother Mike in

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why can't i say something without someone immature trying to be a smart ass or trying to fight everything i say and use it against me?

comments welcome.

.

rmt1

I recently had an encounter with a Ptolemy who had a yard stick for his deferents and a sticker pack of epicycles. (He is in a science degree and in a fraternity.) Every allusion that went over his head, every word that exceeded his vocabulary, was an irregularity or peculiarity denoting a pretension and a misunderstanding. Ptolemies are flummoxed by things that do not apparently center on them or on their world view. The problem is fixed, with some difficulty, by assigning a number of epicycles to those peculiarities that dare refrain from genuflecting to the inviolate stranglehold on reality, ontology and purpose at the center of their system.

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The Gall Of WT To Give This Advice To Pioneers:

by JW GoneBad in

this past week's wt study lesson was entitled: 'pioneering strengthens our relationship with god'.. under the subheading 'remaining in the full-time service' in par 14 the wt has the nerve to give this admonition to pioneers: .

'desiring to learn from jesus' example, a pioneer does well to keep in mind that the more material things he has, the more he will have to maintain , repair, or replace.'.

i don't think the gb or anyone in the writing department has the freedom to speak on giving adivce on the matter of 'material things' given the fact that wt has close to a billion dollars in real estate and loads of money in various bank accounts; given the fact that gb is currently building themselves new living quarters with who knows what sort of comforts and other amenities.

rmt1

I see. Brother Mike is as impervious a tower as Jesus, who preached to the spirits in prison. Unfallible, incorruptible, wiser than the words of Jehovah that are provided at the proper time through the (current, however that is formulated, whatever) Faithful and Discreet Slave. Brother Mike is in fact more knowledgeable, more far-seeing, and wiser than, Jehovah, Himself. I wonder if it's the first time that has happened...

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Who wants to live forever?

by Doug Mason in

what will living be like after 5 billion years?.

doug.

rmt1

The life span of a universe like ours, presently understood, is about 10^100. After that there's not much >at all< to see. So living that long would be a decent minimum lifespan, if one really wants to see every variety of thing that there is to see. Anything less is dying young. And 10^100 is >not< forever. That packs of fools should be fined a nickle every time "forever" passes their pie hole.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat-death_of_the_Universe

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The Gall Of WT To Give This Advice To Pioneers:

by JW GoneBad in

this past week's wt study lesson was entitled: 'pioneering strengthens our relationship with god'.. under the subheading 'remaining in the full-time service' in par 14 the wt has the nerve to give this admonition to pioneers: .

'desiring to learn from jesus' example, a pioneer does well to keep in mind that the more material things he has, the more he will have to maintain , repair, or replace.'.

i don't think the gb or anyone in the writing department has the freedom to speak on giving adivce on the matter of 'material things' given the fact that wt has close to a billion dollars in real estate and loads of money in various bank accounts; given the fact that gb is currently building themselves new living quarters with who knows what sort of comforts and other amenities.

rmt1

Brother Mike, I noticed you've gotten a free pass and not been called out as being apostate for posting on an apostate site. Does that make you feel welcome? Wary? Clearly, if you're a JW on paper yours is superior to JW thinking if you can handle the seduction of making choices for yourself, defying strident dictates of 8 pasty suits in some state in the north east, and even swearing!, and then hermetically sealing off this secret as you go back to your suit, tie, clean shave, fake smiles, and all the accoutrements. If you're that smart to beat the GB, are you smart enough to make dwelling UNDER the GB that palatable? Can you sell a freezer to an eskimo?

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Scientific method approach to false prophecies

by DS211 in

scientific method.

the process of proposing a hypothesis, and then testing its accuracy by collecting data on events the hypothesis predicts.

if the predictions match the new data the hypothesis is supported.

rmt1

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/31/planned-obsolescence-as-myth-or-reality/?_r=0

"In a notable paper from 1986, Jeremy Bulow asserted that a monopolist not threatened by entry would have an incentive to produce goods with “inefficiently short useful lives.” But if consumers have the option to switch to good substitutes — as arguably they do now in the smartphone market — the incentives could run in the opposite direction. Your company might capture a larger share of the market if consumers believe your products are more durable."

They have to stay just one camel straw ahead of "who will we go to?" That's all the specification they have to engineer to. To do that they have to devalue their previous doctrine products in order to make the new doctrine products more paletable, but those new doctrine products still have to be conspicuously costly for the weak-minded or the socially-hostage to feel they can only come from a superhuman source. The GB are handpicked (by who knows what metric) to sustain a reality distortion field.

Apologies for pointing at the engieering and not the science.

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Scientific method approach to false prophecies

by DS211 in

scientific method.

the process of proposing a hypothesis, and then testing its accuracy by collecting data on events the hypothesis predicts.

if the predictions match the new data the hypothesis is supported.

rmt1

Interesting. I appreciate hypotheses that seek to explain or model how it is that the JW leadership do what they do and get away with it, since it defies all reasoning and present (2013) models or examples of self-generated thoughts or self-directed action. Being as they are one of the most self-referential systems, Ptolemaic in the extreme, asserting that all events of the world center on them like celestial spheres, it is consistent to add a time dimension to their sense of entitlement, and model things as you say - "Their past errors is the energy, the food, that powers the wt." So to that extent (who knows what fractional component) they don't even require any present adversaries. They are 'their own worst enemy'.

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Scientific method approach to false prophecies

by DS211 in

scientific method.

the process of proposing a hypothesis, and then testing its accuracy by collecting data on events the hypothesis predicts.

if the predictions match the new data the hypothesis is supported.

rmt1

They have applied the scientific method to the best way to lie, the most optimal lies, the most efficient method of diseminating lies, the best way to prevent the discovery of lies. They are absolutely scientific in how they harness, leverage, exploit human weakness. They crack the human soul to produce a dollar the way a nuclear engineer cracks an atom to produce a joule.

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Boeing 747s and Other Misunderstandings about Evolution

by cofty in

perhaps the most common misunderstanding that prevents people from grasping evolution is complexity.. we see it almost daily on the forum where people mention dna or the eye or any of a multititude of examples and ask how it could have arose "by blind chance"?.

whenever you see a reference to chance and complexity it is obvious the person hasn't yet grasped the basics of the theory.

chance is only one part of the process.

rmt1

Prebiotic significance of extraterrestrial ice photochemistry: detection of hydantoin in organic residues.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22059641

  Formation of Amino Acids and Nucleotide Bases in a Titan Atmosphere Simulation Experiment
http://www.sarahhorst.com/Publications_files/Horst_2012_amino.pdf

Cold chemistry like on comets and Titan has less chemical equilibrium that would quickly destroy newly-created complex molecules.