Posts by dubstepped

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Jesus Christ—The Greatest Scientist (and Psychologist) who ever lived on earth!

by Ireneus in

if we eliminate all the controversial and confusing verses attributed to jesus we will get the crystal clear truth from him because his source was (1) god which can be seen from his habit of early morning talking to god in prayer (mark 1:35; john 8:1, 2) which would not have been for material blessings (mathew 6:8; 16:24), and (2) also observance of people.. 1) jesus who said judgment is based on whether we acted humanely or not (mathew 25:31-46) would not have spoken about god’s people and pagans (which means bulk of the things found in gospel had not been spoken/done by jesus).. 2) another important truth he said was about the real key to our happiness which he said is with each one of us.

(luke 17:21).

from his observance of history, he knew there are people from adversities who made great contribution to the world; and there are people from all abundance who lived a life of wastage accomplishing nothing; and there are people who are mixed in varying degree.

dubstepped

Lol, if he's the "great psychologist" then why are his followers batshit crazy? Why is religiosity often a sign of mental illness? You also literally said that some people had perfect control of their mind. Yeah, I don't think so. But whatever makes you feel special. Grandiosity is often a sign of mental illness too.

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Help Elders poking nose in

by Formerbrother in

jw
friends

what can i do when elders want to poke their nose in?.

they want to have another chat with me and my wife, but we dont want to, it just gets us down..

dubstepped

Once the elders started that crap we disassociated. Never heard from any of them again. No more playing their games. I realize that may not be an option for you. Well, it's always an option, but it may not be a choice that you're willing to make right now.

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Columbia, SC and Arleta, CA members - I need your help

by RunAwayDaughter in

jw
friends

my 18-year-old daughter in columbia, sc ran away to arleta, ca to move in with jw family.

they are living together with the mother's permission in her house along with 10 other family members.

she is surrounded by jws 24 hours a day, seven days a week.. is there anyone in the columbia area who would be willing to help me - maybe meet for a cup of coffee or facetime.

dubstepped

Look, you're running around here posting strange "tricks" from the jump and now telling people what they can or can't post in response to you. People are trying to help but you're reeling and bouncing around and need to calm down from my vantage point. Nothing is on fire here.

The same person that told you to post looking for someone in the area also seemed to do so with the notion that you out your daughter to the local congregation but you already said you weren't going to do that. So then, why do you need someone?

You also left out that she doesn't have identification because you withheld it from her. She wasn't kidnapped. She chose to leave. She's not in the best situation for sure because she's involved with a cult, but it's not the end of the world and there may be more to this story that we don't know and won't get from you. People are trying to help and your loaded language from the beginning didn't help so you'll have to receive feedback whether you like that feedback or not.

There's a lot of drama for sure, but it isn't all coming from that home so far away. You mentioned your daughter's lies as a way to paint her as being manipulated. Maybe she's just a liar, maybe she is being manipulated, or maybe there's a reason she feels she has to lie to you specifically. Again, drama doesn't just live on one side of the country. Figuring out the "why" behind all of this may help more than the "what" and "where" of the current situation.

You're mad at them for taking her in, but you took him in. In fact, a lot of what you said above that you were mad about was about you, how you feel tricked by him. You were fine with all if this until it got out from under your control.

Please look inward because the only thing you can control is you. If you want her back, you have to be the person she wants to come to.

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What are you most passionate about?

by SplaneThisToMe in

i had an interview today and was asked a question o have gotten in the past: what are you most passionate about?

it was a struggle to come up with an answer on this one.

as a jw, the things i was passionate about were chosen for me.

dubstepped

Yeah, this question is a mind fuck. My wife and I are struggling right now to figure those things out, to figure out who we are in ways. Heck, we were talking earlier about how neither of us has a style when it comes to how we dress. I have no clue how to look cool and all of her clothes are based on being "modest". They told us what to like (cult activities), kept us from influences and experiences that others have growing up the help shape them, ugh, just fuck them all. I soooo wish I never heard the name Jehovah.

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Shunning article on Yahoo appears for second day in a row!

by eyeuse2badub in

the detroit free press article from yesterday that made front page news on yahoo makes it on yahoo again today!

good to see the main line news paying attention to what kind of sh*t goes on inside the watchtower.

and to think that this bad publicity is happening during the "memorial season" (lol memorial season).. just saying!.

dubstepped

@steve2 - I had to access them on my laptop. There was a menu on the left with icons and I used the comments icon there. It doesn't seem to work on mobile in my experience.

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Shunning article on Yahoo appears for second day in a row!

by eyeuse2badub in

the detroit free press article from yesterday that made front page news on yahoo makes it on yahoo again today!

good to see the main line news paying attention to what kind of sh*t goes on inside the watchtower.

and to think that this bad publicity is happening during the "memorial season" (lol memorial season).. just saying!.

dubstepped

@steve2 - There are definitely comments. A few dub defenders but myself and others set that straight.

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Disfellowshipped/disassociated – How did your parents handle it?

by Richard_I in

to those who were disfellowshipped/disassociated – how did your still-in parents handle it?.

i don’t want to fade, so i am thinking about disassociating soon – i don’t care if i’m playing by the org’s rules, i just want out.. however, i am concerned about how my parents will react.

i don’t want them to become super depressed or whatever due to me leaving the org.. i don’t want them to be hurt by my decision to leave the org, but i feel like there is no way of avoiding this..

dubstepped

They won't give two shits what happens to you after you disassociate so why should you care about them. Yes, they will react badly but that's on them. You live your life your way and they get to do the same. It's not up to you to take on their feelings.

My wife and I both disassociated. Best decision we ever made. Are our parents bothered by it? I'm sure, but how does one really know when they're shunned and will never see them again? I'm dead to them. They are dead to me.

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Blood Card Issue

by pometerre21 in

i posted this on r/exjw, but i thought i might post it here as well.

so the elders in our kh are moving to get us to sign new simplified blood cards and keep them on file.

i really need to not rock the boat in my current pimo status because of circumstances.. my cousin knows i have doubts about the blood thing, but i can’t show her that my doubts are getting to me.

dubstepped

Ah, the games faders have to play. If you're going to do something like DOC says above, which might be your only play if you're really willing to potentially sign your life away to the cult, be sure to maybe speak with a lawyer about it. Maybe you could get something drawn up legally because otherwise they'll bring in their copies of your papers and they'll be sure to have people speak for you as to you being a good JW so they'll try to establish a pattern of you as a JW despite anything you do to circumvent it.

Or you could just establish a boundary and say that you won't do it, you won't give them one. Just say you're a private person or that you feel weird or something and be quirky and don't do what they say. I don't think they can disfellowship you because you don't give them a copy of your card. You will have to sack up and take a stand though. Or just let them bully you like they do with their bad cult boundaries and put your life in their hands. I'm pretty sure you've been given advice on this already.

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Special Talk today was televised

by dropoffyourkeylee in

i heard the special talk today was televised (recorded, i presume).

the speaker was named griffin.

did anyone catch his first name or where he was from?.

dubstepped

Peter? ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNkfDKhMkKo