So what she's mad about isn't that you broke a promise made at baptism to God himself, but rather some dude. Shows who she's really worshipping, I guess.
Sorry man. That's so abusive, just all of it. Total shunning can be nice.
so last night at around 11 while me and the wife were watching netflix and my cellphone rings.
i didn't make it in time and saw it was my mother who never speaks to me.
i decided to call back fearing something happened with my dad.
So what she's mad about isn't that you broke a promise made at baptism to God himself, but rather some dude. Shows who she's really worshipping, I guess.
Sorry man. That's so abusive, just all of it. Total shunning can be nice.
just heard that a young brother committed suicide this week - the whole congregation is naturally very distressed.
what a tragedy.
according to my source he'd only been married about a year and his wife found him - he’d hung himself.
Whew Phoebe, that was a rough read. Callous bastards! Ugh, it's like trying to talk to my dad, who of course was an elder. Just humans that are dead inside while worshiping their own ego.
I'm glad you got honest and got help too. :)
https://pro.psychcentral.com/exhausted-woman/2015/05/15-narcissistic-religious-abuse-tactics/.
i read the above posted article and it made me wonder how many narcicistic people join the borg because it fits well with their personality.
i also wonder if being indoctrinated makes you become narcicistic.
Yes and yes. It is a narcissism factory. It attracts narcissists as employees and churns out little ones.
I remember my wife asking me for something when we were married for the first many years. She didn't know the word for it and neither did I. I would later find out as I read self-help books that the word was "empathy". I barely even saw other people, certainly lacked the ability to perspective take, and had no clue how to get there. I'm now quite good at it, spoken like a narcissist, lol.
It's hard not to be narcissists when you're God's chosen people but you're also a worthless piece of crap that has to struggle against your very nature daily to possibly be saved from this worthless existence in a world that doesn't matter. You can easily become consumed with yourself to the exclusion of everyone around. There's a great book called The Narcissistic Family that nailed the family I grew up in and helped me.
i heard laurel and the wife heard yanny.
maybe someone can post the spoken word..
Laurel. My wife and I both clearly heard Laurel, over and over again. Anyone that believes differently is a mentally diseased apostate and lost to Satan.
just heard that a young brother committed suicide this week - the whole congregation is naturally very distressed.
what a tragedy.
according to my source he'd only been married about a year and his wife found him - he’d hung himself.
The level of darkness that drives such is so awful and tragic, and then it transfers to some degree to those that are left behind. I'm so sorry to hear this. The cult nearly pushed me that far. Knowing what I know now I hate these stories because life can be worth living.
a kingdom hall near a small community called yelm was shot up.
yelm is where two kingdom halls where set on fire about a month ago.
i think someone, exjw, in that area is really pissed off..
They push and push and push people to their limits and I can't believe something horrific hasn't happened on a mass level. I guess there is a lot that still does happen, just on a smaller scale. The suicides, the abuse inside families, the mental disorders and depression, some of these weird events like the one in Australia or Michigan. I don't want to see people hurt and Jehovah's Witnesses are hurting lots of people. It would be in their best interests to back off, but we know they won't. It's sad. Nobody wins in this stuff.
about one month ago, i sent my disassociation letters out, one was addressed to their headquarters in ny.
(usa) and three were addressed to the kingdom halls in my area.. now the strangest thing has happened, two of the letters that i sent to the local khs were returned to me by the post office labeled "return to sender-no mail recepticle-unable to forward.
" one came last week, and another one today.
They didn't get our letters when we sent them because their address was wrong online. An elder called me and I told him we disassociated. He was blown away and ultimately said they hadn't received anything, but gave me his address and I simply sent copies of the letters to him and was soon announced.
Seems like they have mail issues at times.
i have to say that the talk was very good.
instead of just repeating a jw manual , the speaker actually spoke about my brother!
there were a few scriptures with the jw hope but 80 % of the talk was actually about the life of my brother.
I'm glad they made it about your brother Minimus, and that you felt good about it.
A PIMO friend recently went to the memorial of a sister that died. She was very close to this person. The new outline allows for personal comments about the deceased but she wasn't allowed because only people with a penis can speak at such an occasion. Her husband went up and said some general Witness-y things.
spoke to my younger brother dan yesterday (he da'd about 6 months ago).
he was telling me that he got a visit from our older brother the day before.
our older brother was raised a jw but never committed, lives a full-on "worldly" life - smokes, binge drinks, hangs out with non-jws, but he's been studying for about 6 years would you believe?.
I thought demons only inhabited stuffed animals.
It's all so stupid. Suddenly your oldest brother is asking elders about purchases of used weights? That's so random. Love your last point about all that dirty used money they're happy to take. Heck, our assembly hall was a church at one point. I remember walking into it with my wife the first time and thinking it was so weird.
i knocked on his door with 2 bibles and a 1984 wt bound volume in hand.
i was ready for war!
he surprised me and invited me in.
Lol