Posts by dubstepped

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What is this "religion"?

by Kom 197 in

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for a long time, i was convinced jehovah witnesses were just people preaching the word of god in a different way than other christians.

i was shown the real truth over the past few months.

i've been friends with this guy for over 5 years.

dubstepped

@neatbluedog - I have to admit that with a migraine today the walls of text that she wrote tended to run together so perhaps I mistook how strong his relationship with the JWs was.

And perhaps brainwashing was the wrong term, but no doubt a long term relationship starting so young has a sort of enmeshment (substitute that for brainwashing) that is extra hard to pull away from. Clearly this lady has her own spiritual walk but it's likely that if he's a strong personality or has a strong pull toward the cult then he's impacted her. That much is clear or she wouldn't be here.

What's absurd is to encourage a person to pursue a relationship at such a young age and with so little experience where the guy already broke up with her for the cult. Go find someone more healthy. You're young and chasing something you started at 14 that has at least one major red flag. Most people aren't with the person they were with at 14 long term. There are reasons for that. Not that it can't work, but you're chasing something that has proven to be bad instead of pursuing good. That's my opinion. Yours may differ. We're not in a cult and don't have to agree.

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What is this "religion"?

by Kom 197 in

jw
friends

for a long time, i was convinced jehovah witnesses were just people preaching the word of god in a different way than other christians.

i was shown the real truth over the past few months.

i've been friends with this guy for over 5 years.

dubstepped

Run!!!!!!!! He's in a cult. He's not free from the indoctrination, he's not got free will, and he will fuck you over if you keep going down this path.

Forget how long you've known each other. If you met him today in a bar you'd run. Don't throw good time after bad. In fact, the fact that you've known each other since you were so young probably means he's been subtly influencing you to brainwash you too. JWs can't help it. Brainwashed people brainwash people.

Run, run, run. You're on a forum with people that know the ins and outs of this cult and we can't save our family members, so what chance do you have? Very little. He has to want to break away and you can't make someone want something that they don't want.

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Helpless and Very Sad Grandmother

by Brenda Cook in

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i am the grandmother of the runaway 18year old girl who is now living with her 22 year old idiot.

this person has totally brainwashed my granddaughter and is continuing to separate her from our family.

i feel so helpless that there is nothing we can do to make her see this - no money, no identity, and a servant to him and his family.

dubstepped

Have you read the other THREE threads started by your daughter? We've already been through all of this. In the end she's an adult and her life isn't yours to control. There is lots of good advice in those other threads.

With that said, I'm sorry for your loss, as it stands today.

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Newspaper is interested in interviewing me!!!

by dubstepped in

a friend and client and former politician just called me.

he knows people in the media and had offered a few months back to see if anyone would be interested in doing a story on what i'm doing through my podcasts this jw life" and "shunned".

of course i was excited but things take time and you never know if they'll pan out.

dubstepped

A friend and client and former politician just called me. He knows people in the media and had offered a few months back to see if anyone would be interested in doing a story on what I'm doing through my podcasts This JW Life" and "shunned". Of course I was excited but things take time and you never know if they'll pan out. I still don't know for sure, but a reporter called my friend today and asked him how to contact me. I'm so excited even at the possibility that I could burst!

It would be so poetic. When I was a kid there was a story that hit big in the papers here about a scandal in a congregation in another area (if memory serves, I was a kid). I remember specifically being told at meetings not to read the paper or their apostate lies. I didn't, of course. Now I could actually be that apostate, lol.

Will it happen? Who knows. But things ARE happening. My last interviewee for "shunned", David, crashed his local KH and outed his abuser. I even have the audio on the podcast. When you put yourself out there good things can happen. If this newspaper story gets done and published it will only add to my joy in this. The goal was to give a voice to the voiceless, to tell the other side of the story, and to help people by doing so. I might get to add to that soon and just knowing that people are taking notice makes me so happy.

I'll avoid posting specifics unless it happens. I don't want to tip anything too much but if it happens everyone will know. I don't know the circulation now but it is a nice sized metro area. Last time I saw it was somewhere around a couple hundred thousand in circulation in a metro area of a million or so.

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Jesus Christ—The Greatest Scientist (and Psychologist) who ever lived on earth!

by Ireneus in

if we eliminate all the controversial and confusing verses attributed to jesus we will get the crystal clear truth from him because his source was (1) god which can be seen from his habit of early morning talking to god in prayer (mark 1:35; john 8:1, 2) which would not have been for material blessings (mathew 6:8; 16:24), and (2) also observance of people.. 1) jesus who said judgment is based on whether we acted humanely or not (mathew 25:31-46) would not have spoken about god’s people and pagans (which means bulk of the things found in gospel had not been spoken/done by jesus).. 2) another important truth he said was about the real key to our happiness which he said is with each one of us.

(luke 17:21).

from his observance of history, he knew there are people from adversities who made great contribution to the world; and there are people from all abundance who lived a life of wastage accomplishing nothing; and there are people who are mixed in varying degree.

dubstepped

Lol, if he's the "great psychologist" then why are his followers batshit crazy? Why is religiosity often a sign of mental illness? You also literally said that some people had perfect control of their mind. Yeah, I don't think so. But whatever makes you feel special. Grandiosity is often a sign of mental illness too.

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Help Elders poking nose in

by Formerbrother in

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what can i do when elders want to poke their nose in?.

they want to have another chat with me and my wife, but we dont want to, it just gets us down..

dubstepped

Once the elders started that crap we disassociated. Never heard from any of them again. No more playing their games. I realize that may not be an option for you. Well, it's always an option, but it may not be a choice that you're willing to make right now.

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Columbia, SC and Arleta, CA members - I need your help

by RunAwayDaughter in

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my 18-year-old daughter in columbia, sc ran away to arleta, ca to move in with jw family.

they are living together with the mother's permission in her house along with 10 other family members.

she is surrounded by jws 24 hours a day, seven days a week.. is there anyone in the columbia area who would be willing to help me - maybe meet for a cup of coffee or facetime.

dubstepped

Look, you're running around here posting strange "tricks" from the jump and now telling people what they can or can't post in response to you. People are trying to help but you're reeling and bouncing around and need to calm down from my vantage point. Nothing is on fire here.

The same person that told you to post looking for someone in the area also seemed to do so with the notion that you out your daughter to the local congregation but you already said you weren't going to do that. So then, why do you need someone?

You also left out that she doesn't have identification because you withheld it from her. She wasn't kidnapped. She chose to leave. She's not in the best situation for sure because she's involved with a cult, but it's not the end of the world and there may be more to this story that we don't know and won't get from you. People are trying to help and your loaded language from the beginning didn't help so you'll have to receive feedback whether you like that feedback or not.

There's a lot of drama for sure, but it isn't all coming from that home so far away. You mentioned your daughter's lies as a way to paint her as being manipulated. Maybe she's just a liar, maybe she is being manipulated, or maybe there's a reason she feels she has to lie to you specifically. Again, drama doesn't just live on one side of the country. Figuring out the "why" behind all of this may help more than the "what" and "where" of the current situation.

You're mad at them for taking her in, but you took him in. In fact, a lot of what you said above that you were mad about was about you, how you feel tricked by him. You were fine with all if this until it got out from under your control.

Please look inward because the only thing you can control is you. If you want her back, you have to be the person she wants to come to.

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What are you most passionate about?

by SplaneThisToMe in

i had an interview today and was asked a question o have gotten in the past: what are you most passionate about?

it was a struggle to come up with an answer on this one.

as a jw, the things i was passionate about were chosen for me.

dubstepped

Yeah, this question is a mind fuck. My wife and I are struggling right now to figure those things out, to figure out who we are in ways. Heck, we were talking earlier about how neither of us has a style when it comes to how we dress. I have no clue how to look cool and all of her clothes are based on being "modest". They told us what to like (cult activities), kept us from influences and experiences that others have growing up the help shape them, ugh, just fuck them all. I soooo wish I never heard the name Jehovah.

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Shunning article on Yahoo appears for second day in a row!

by eyeuse2badub in

the detroit free press article from yesterday that made front page news on yahoo makes it on yahoo again today!

good to see the main line news paying attention to what kind of sh*t goes on inside the watchtower.

and to think that this bad publicity is happening during the "memorial season" (lol memorial season).. just saying!.

dubstepped

@steve2 - I had to access them on my laptop. There was a menu on the left with icons and I used the comments icon there. It doesn't seem to work on mobile in my experience.

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Shunning article on Yahoo appears for second day in a row!

by eyeuse2badub in

the detroit free press article from yesterday that made front page news on yahoo makes it on yahoo again today!

good to see the main line news paying attention to what kind of sh*t goes on inside the watchtower.

and to think that this bad publicity is happening during the "memorial season" (lol memorial season).. just saying!.

dubstepped

@steve2 - There are definitely comments. A few dub defenders but myself and others set that straight.