Gosg Seattleguy thats great news. Its also very flattering and a great reference to your talents and abilities. If nothing comes of it well then it wasnt meant to be. But what a great compliment for a fantasic guy! Congratulations mate!
Purple
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I might be going back to the evil empire....
by seattleniceguy inno, not that evil empire...god, no.. i'm referring to that large software corporation whose name rhymes with "fikrosoft.
" i got a couple emails this week asking if i was looking, and, well, i wasn't until i heard some of the details.
i just had an hour-long phone interview that went very well, and i'll be going in for an in-person interview on tuesday.
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Out of the Loop
by Descender ini'm here for an attitude adjustment i guess.
i'm 28 years old and i'm out of the loop.
i was a witness up until a few years ago when my wife and i faded away.
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Purple
Heheh from an "x" wives perspective who did what your wife is doing:
I could not stand being near my x before we broke up. It was due to his deteriorating mental health and not wanting to help himeself, and then the domestic violence and abuse on his part. The worse part was he thought it was acceptable and justifiable (not saying this is similar to your situation or that this is even happening in your situation).
SOmetimes when you get married it isnt what you thought it would be and you try to cut your partner out of your "real" life and yet not leave entirely but stay so everything looks right. I did that for the last 10 years of 18 years of marriage.
The truth was the less my life became about him, the more agitated and upset he became. In the end the place we shared was just somewher to come home and sleep, shower and change. It is no way to live and is not infact a life at all, for you or her. It sounds like she cant deal with your health problems.
You mentioned ADHD I think and you have gone off your tablets? Hun go back on them and try to see things clearly. It might be that you need to clear and settle your mind so you can think clearly and really look at what is happening. Dont just concentrate on what she is doing to you but look at what you as a couple are doing, what you want out of life and so on. If the relationship is not working...well it takes two to make a relationship both giving and taking, not just one giving and the other taking. Is it possible she is reacting to what is happening to you and your confusion etc?
She may love the attention that you cant give her or something, who knows? Maybe she just doenst want someone to cling to her and try to live out life through her. From what you described it sounds like that is happening. It wont work. Talk to her and try to do everything you can to sort it out before its to late. I can tell you as the one who left, it aint easy even if you are the one that walks out. Life is just so darn hard sometimes at least try to work things out before you make decscions.
Then again if you have tried and she doesnt want to, then at least you know you have done everything in your power to make the relationship work. Lets face it, a erlationship is never going to be easy or perfect and even the best ones take a lot of work. Its when we stop working to make it work that the problems really start. Talk, talk, and then talk till she listens...and listen whilst she talks, I mean really listen, dont just assume you know what she is going to say like most of us do and above all dont yell or shout but just talk!
Dont accuse, dont suspect, it could be true that she does just shrug it all off and whilst is flattered by it may be wishing she got this type of attention from you. I know thats how I was feeling when going through similar things. It was stranger before me but all I saw was my husband and fantasized it was him in my mind. I never did more than dance cause I was faithful till the end and you have no evidence to the contrary that your wife has not been faithful.. We all do lots of things to escape reality, friends and dancing could be her way of coping with a relationship that she doenst seem to be taking part in much.
Sorry I dont mean to offend or cause offense but you did ask.....
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It's probably all gonna hit the fan soon!
by onintwo inthere must be hundreds of thousands of current jw's who haven't planned for retirement.
i know that i was "in" the troof til my mid-forties and always believed what's the point?
didn't they tell us that advanced degrees were useless?
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Purple
I knew a so called annointed brother who died a few years ago and I remember a the account of how he and his wife decided to get married because it would only be for a few years and the wife said she knew then where her husband would be in the new system..up in heaven watching out for her! It was an amusing story, they were both umm I forget what the next level was above regular pioneering..anyway I think they did hundreds of hours a year witnessiing and so on. They never had any children and didnt have many relatives, maybe one brother I think.
Anway he was faithful until he died and was a truely wondrful, beautiful person who always smiled and never complained about anything. I recalled this when I heard he died and wondered how he felt just before he died, I mean did he trust his long held faith fully?? Did he die confidently with the truth solid in his heart, prepared for his annoiting and stuff or did he think, sh** what if it was all a lie and stuff like that?
So anyway I like the point about the majority being without worldy goods and having to rely on the government for an income now. Its an interesting point. Most dunbs here live in government housing on government pensions awaiting the day when all that is behind them. Well the truth is if they went out and got full time jobs or lots of part time jobs they could get out of government housing and pensions. Many related that they thought they were beating the government at their own game, getting the government to support the great witnessing work world wide. When you think about it, its not such a joke, they are!
As to what will happoen in the future to them, most will end up deluded and disappointed but still stay in the troof because its habit and its their life. I wonder if they ever did a survey and asked how many were deluded and disappointed and were afraid to leave the troof what the statistics would reveal and we might see many really leaving. After all dont they count inactive ones still amongst their numbers???
Interesting thread indeed!
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Just heard. About Micheal Jackson!
by ChimChim innot sure if this was already covered but i wanted to ask anyways.. i just heard about 20 minutes ago that this man thinks he is innocent because he "hypnotised" him and when people are hypnotised can't lie and they always tell the truth, and micheal said that nothing had happend that day, and they asked about something else to but i forget what it was for, something about why did he pay?
lol i cant remember.
i think it's alot of crap, i dont think he was hypnotised but i wasnt there so i wouldnt know!
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Purple
Sorry I have to disagree and dont want ot get into a debate. But NOT GUILTY! Are you joking, naive or what? The old saying of there is no smoke without fire applies here. The first time I gave him the benefit of a doubt cause it really did seem like the family was just after money. After the special where he openly admits to sleeping with children he can no longer be counted as innocent. He dug his own grave I am afraid. Anyone who has anything to do with children know how trusting they are at all ages and will trust until they are taught not to.
He is not as simple and beautiful as he portrays himself to be. His very face and fantasy life reveal that he has lost touch with reality and is deceptive. He is very deluded and needs help and this is his opportunity to receive some help. I dont care how great his music is, I have 7 nieces and nephews and know how vulnerable they can be. I know the boy in this case is older but he still can be niave and taken advantage of.
I think Jacksons innocent cry this time is hollow and empty. They found too much evidence at his home. You can say its all lies to make him look bad and stuff like that but I am afraid too much has happened, there is too much evidence and he has already paid someone to keep quiet about it. Please wake up and see the truth about this pedophile, the lies about him being innocent allow him to go on hurting children. After all if it was anyone else would you be so forgiving and think they were innocent? WOuld you believe they were still innocent even after all the evidence, former best friends giving evidence to the fact that he was sleeping with children and so on.
Come on, get real. Its because of jerks like him that an innocent hug to a hurt child is now questioned and you dont know whether to help lost children and stuff because you could be accussed of hurting and so on. Jerks like him have taken away a great deal from society so stop protecting them! Sorry if my view offends you, like I said this angers me and I dont really want to debate it but I cant believe that after everything that has happened, how he treats his own children and so you could believe he was innocent. Fogiveness can only go so far you know but he is hurting children for life, not just the life of the media coverage.
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Learnt more in the last couple of days than in the last 10 years.......
by Purple inwell about the organisation anyway!
i just wanted to say thanks to everyone on this board.
although i did the fade away i never realised that i still thought of it as the truth.
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Purple
Hheheh thanks for clarifing that I thought it may have stood for Bullsh## organisation! Both seem to fit it perfectly anyway!
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JW Women
by Sassy inpurple had a thread about sisters and feeling left out or forgotten and while i do totally relate to what she posted about and agree with it from personal experience, what i experienced as a married jw wife i found more intollerable and it was one of the reasons that i ceased to be a jw.
it is one thing to be a woman and single and feel like you miss out on some social activities because you aren't a "couple' or a "couple where both are jws" and that does stink..
but be a woman who is married and your husband is a 'so called jw'.. you have no rights.. you can not even talk to the elders without your husband in their presense.
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Purple
Fantastic thread Sassy!
Welcome to all the newbies too and I am also sorry to hear about your experiences but Gretchen is right..they helped us see what we were going through enough to break free.
Sassy I never knew that about married sisters and elders and not being able to speak to them without the hubs present. OMG who do they think they are???????????????? I was so shcoked when I read that. I guess sometimes you can look at someone's life and envy it, not realising the hell someone can be going through. I always imagined that married sisters with hubs in the troof had lots of support and such. Gosh well you live and learn everyday! Thanks for that insight!
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Single in the troof
by Purple inhere's something i am wondering.
i was alone in the troof (married but partner not in troof) female without children.
the ignorance and arrogance of so called sisters was outstounding.
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Purple
Thanks guys
Its good to know that I wasnt imaging the treatment I got. I did think about the husband alone in the troof bit too but hubbies seem to have more for them as they come become more involved etc and the cong seemed to be more accepting of husbands alone in the truth.
The congs I was in are very conservative ones, mostly families or couples and the younger ones seemed to have their own stuff to do and were generally happy and younger than me.
I just used to find it really hard when the main emphasis was love and acceptance..which of course could not be farther from the truth! It really was an exclusive club that only the sacred few got invited to. Mind you I was relieved when I wasnt invited as lots of things seem to go wrong at many picnic, BBQ's Parties and so on. The emphasis became so much on social stuff in one cong that we had a special CO's visit to have special talks about not putting the emphasis on social but concentrate more on our ministries and attending meetings. I can tell you I walked out that meeting with a clear conscience and a naughty sniggering sound....
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Single in the troof
by Purple inhere's something i am wondering.
i was alone in the troof (married but partner not in troof) female without children.
the ignorance and arrogance of so called sisters was outstounding.
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Purple
Hey MAverick
Thanks for that insight. SHeesh if I was interested in another long term relationship ever and living on the other side of the world would I love to meet you!!!!!!!!!!!!
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DEMONS! Experiences With Demons While IN "The Truth?
by Hunyadi inhello all.. i am compiling information about jw's and former jw's who seemed to either have an extra sensativity toward demons, or who had outright experiences with them.
these experiences may include ambiguous contact as well, ie, "i'm not sure what the hell it was, but it was weird.".
what did you do during the experience to resist or make the demon(s) go away?.
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Purple
I was into the new age type of beliefs before the truth and used to get the sensation that someone was following me, standing besides me and would often hear a wisper when no one else was around. Not voices but indescriminate wispers that nothing made sense of.
I also used to meditate and got into a deep meditation one day and started chanting this chant about "the circle be unbroken" which I have since learnt is known in the world of wicca..
The last night of all of this I was dreaming that someone was on my back taking advantage of me and I was scared but when I woke up I had the sensation of soemthing on my back pulling me backwards and trying to break my back and I had a feeling of being violated and had a very sore back for the next few days.
The society would say it was demons but I dont call the experiences that, as I am unsure what it was.
Out on FS one day I called on someone who listened to her "voices" and I accused her of listening to demons voices and she became agitated and things started to literally fly around the room. I almost expected her head to turn around 360 degrees and her eyes go green or something! She asked us to leave and not come back and when we realted the experience to the elders she was put down as a do not call.
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What is the purpose of life?
by fearnotruth22 inthings were different when you were active in the org.
meetings, talks, service, assemblies, elders meetings, congrgational duties, busy with the hope of a reward of living forever and serving god with eternity in view.
all of your efforts and goals related to being a jw, your thinking, your views, your life, your future all revolved aroung the org.. with all that aside, what are you doing now?
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Purple
It depends on what is happening actually! At the moment my purpose in life is to live it successfully and try not to kill my x. Does life have a purpose? after all we dont get a say in whether we have life or not, so should we say what its purpose is?
Or I could say that it sucks big time at the moment and I wouldnt mind if it ended, but I wouldnt do anything to hasten that ending?
I could also say theat my x's purpose in life is to make sure mine is as miserable as possible but his neck will end up snapped if he ever crosses my path again?
Whether or not I believe in anything has no influence on me at the moment cause I doubt that much beyond this realm exists. I know I dont want to live my life anymore anticipating the end of millions of lives. Especially as the only thing many of them were guilty of was living the life they had been supposedly gifted with in the first place!
Sheesh I miss the days before the truth when I wasnt aware of all the stuff I am aware of now...innocence was bliss!