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  Bye-bye love

  by wanderlustguy in

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  i had to say goodbye to my s/o yesterday for the last time.

  it has become more and more apparent to me that the reason we were together, at least for me, was that i sought out the same type fo restriction i had on my as i grew up and stayed in "the truth".

  i posted about this before, but not like this.

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  Love shouldn't hurt. If it does, it's based on control and 'conditional' love.

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  For those taken from us by the Witnesses . . .

  by cruzanheart in

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  whether by death, shunning, or some other means: here is a candle in their memory.

  though gone from us, you are not forgotten and you will be forever loved.. for my dad, who killed himself two years ago today:.

  nina

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  Nina,

  I feel your pain, I lost my father just about the same time. After blindly shunning him for 18 years, he died shortly after he was reinstated.

  Now my kids are following my (blind) example, and are doing the same thing to me. Talk about guilt and pain.

  Much Love and Strength,

  Ary
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  My 8 Foot R/c Plane...

  by FMZ in

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  i know, i know... it's just another big toy... but this rocks!.

  it's made of pink foam (it will be covered in black monocote when finished with flames on the wingtips), and the wingspan is 8 whole feet.

  most of the electronics are in there apart from the motor, which shipment was delayed on.

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  Yeah that should work. A peptobismol airplane with a camera.. no one will notice when you take their pic.

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  Bad news from my blood test :(

  by Elsewhere in

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  the other day i went in for a routine physical and today i got the results in the mail.

  it turns out my cholesterol is out of wack and needs to be corrected.

  (normal) numbers in parenth are what my levels should be.. cholesterol = 249 ( < 200 ).

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  Elsewhere,

  This is not the way to get attention from the ladies.Just get off your lazy ass, quit eating those Big Mac Super Sized meals, and at least sweep the floor. You'd be surprized the workout you get from moving a broom.

  In no time your cholesterol will be like those funny numbers you posted.

  Puternutty
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  Well, well, well...Mr. Gumby

  by onacruse in

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  i just noticed that you've passed the 10,000-post milestone.. aren't your gums getting tired by now?.

  it's good to know you, my friend..

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  Gumball,

  10.000 posts, lets see Gummyworm and Minimus don't have much of a life. LMAO Just kidding Gumsmack !!! Congrats, you have earned your wings.

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  Just had two elders stop by

  by Puternut in

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  i just finished a visit with two elders.

  i had actually contacted the head quarters and wanted to see how fast i can get a response from them.

  i was impressed, from the time of my request to them in my house... two weeks.

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  I just finished a visit with two elders. I had actually contacted the Head Quarters and wanted to see how fast I can get a response from them. I was impressed, from the time of my request to them in my house... two weeks. Not bad, but what posses me to get involved with elders?

  What inspired me, was the fact that not to long ago, someone posted a thread on the latest updates with Barbara Anderson. I was impressed again by how couragous, and intelligent this woman is. But in the end, she, like most of us are trying to help open the eyes of those who being held blind. Same goes for Bill Bowen, he is merely trying to expose and open the eyes of those who are involved with child abuse cases. So how can I as a person help open the eyes of these sheep? Taking to the average witness doesn't work, because I am df'd and before long figure that out, and that would be the end of THAT discussion. I can't talk to my children, because I have been labeled apostate. So who can I help out there?

  Well for all above reasons, I thought I was a PO and in that organization, I know a way to start planting some seed somewhere. Only the elders can technally speak to df'd ones. So why not present my story as to what happened to me, and how I was stumbled by the way things were handled with child abuse cases. Which that particular story I shall not share here, due to space. You can read about that in my Topic history. But these two elders, eventually will run across these cases, if not hear about them. And since I told them my entire story, and them realizing I had great knowledge of the inner workings of the organization, and doctrine, as well as legal issues, I had their respect. After all I had spoken at assemblies in front of thousand of people, and I carry my voice.

  Their eyes grew wide as I was explaining, why I had troubles with they way the society handles these cases. I mentioned that there are still two elders, in a neigboring congregation who are again serving as elders, and are molesters. Why isn't the organization doing anything about this? How can you as an elder let that get by you and do nothing about? They had the usual reply,, we need to wait on Jehovah. I replied with the question if either of them had any children, and the one that made the statement did. Perfect, so then if this molester is not dealt with properly, and is allowed to go through the loops and molests your daugher, do you feel it was worth for waiting on Jehovah? He didn't reply, he grew quiet. I mentioned I had read a letter from a sister who had a grandfather who was a CO who was also a molester. Found that post right here on the board and quoted parts of it. They grew even more quiet.

  I did explain, I was not trying to talk bad about the organization, but was merely pointing out that the procedures for allowing these molester to roam freely amongst the flock is plain dangerous. They asked if I had proof. I have plenty, and spoke freely from the 'Paying Attention to the Flock' book, as to how the loopholes make no sense. They mentioned they couldn't believe what they were hearing. I mentioned, that I know exactly how they feel. I didn't believe it either, and had to check it out. And that is what they wanted to do, namely bring the circuit overseer. I agreed, as a matter of fact you are welcome to invite the district overseer as well.

  But I must warn you now, once you dig into this, you will be told the same things I am telling you now. I have no reason to lie about this, because from your stand point I am df'd and you will take my story with a grain of salt. But you will know I have spoken the truth, once you hear the warnings for yourself. And you will be told, it has been handeled and the current molesting elders have the respect of the congregation, and no one knows. But the fact that remains 'I' know and so does a fellow inactive elder in that particular congregation, and left just like me for the same reasons. They were not to up on how many cases are currently in court, because they felt that my case was unique. Well not as you unique as you might think... looking at the cases in the entire US not mentioning the ones world wide and all belong to the organization, But out of respect for them, I didn't want to overwhelm them. I felt it was information overload. I mentioned I had other issues that we could discuss another time.

  So to end this, the leading elder of the evening, did promise to get back to me, when he send some letters, did some research and talked to the CO. I think I can believe him, he looked like a nice man, and was impressed with my knowledge of the cases, and knew I wasn't slandering the organization. As a matter of fact I apologized to the newly one month old appointed elder, telling him he must be getting an overwhelming earful and didn't want to stumble him. So please stop me if you don't understand something I am telling you.

  They both learned a lot. But I felt we can all plant little seeds where we can. I know we are hurt by what happend to us, but we can still be kind to them, after all we need to be here for them when their eyes are opened.

  Puternut
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  In My Time of Dyin'......

  by PopeOfEruke in

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  ever given any thought to your own funeral?

  do you plan to have a memorial service, in a kh?

  or in a church?

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  Plan to die peacefully alone. My kids likely won't be there anyway, since I am df'd and then it's too late anyway.

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  Defending and Legally Establishing the Truth - Barb Anderson

  by Dogpatch in

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  from barbara anderson:.

  http://www.freeminds.org/women/defendingtruth.htm.

  it appeared in the december 8, 1991 awake!

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  It's getting hot in here.....just a matter of time now.

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  Sex abuse elder's cover up and family. (Please read & reply)

  by Dragonlady76 in

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  2. child-abuse

  here's a question i hope someone can answer for me, if elders are aware that someone in the cong has been accused of child molestation/rape, and the elders have young children of their own how do they deal with this individual amongst them?

  ***in case where molester denies wrong doing & no action taken***.

  would they allow their kids to go on field service w/ this person?.

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  Dear poster,

  I was a presiding overseer for many years. I can personally speak from real life experiences. Yes this does go on in that organization, and yes as elders you are torn in two. Because if you are an elder with kids, you can inform your own kids up to a point what to look out for, But others unfortunately, aren't as informed. And yes the organization, hides child molesters. There are currently two elders from a neighboring congregation, who are still elders and have molested within their own families. And the elders that know about this, are either living double lives or are no longer elders, because they woke up. Including myself.

  Spiritually raped,

  Puternut
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  Sassy

  by stillajwexelder in

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  is sassy ok - do not see her on here as often as we used to.

  anybody know how she is doing and if she is ok?

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  Thanks for the chat last night Sassy. Hang in there, you're going to be ok in the end.

  Puternut